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Almost Nothing About the ‘Apple Harvests Gold from iPhones’ Story Is True

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Post by Retric »

ipsin wrote: post #122
Retric wrote: post #114

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WSJ is one of the wost offenders for this. Their origional content is often a mix of public datasets with a visual and deeply biased stories that are practically propaganda. It's a simple test pick 10 major stories from this time last year and look for inaccuracy's. Last time I did this they and several other papers scored a flat ZERO. Several papers could not even get everyone's name correct. Going this day from las…

It also starts with "Madrid-" then says the attack is in Barcelona A location in the beginning of a newspaper story is taken to mean the location of the reporter, not the event.

To clarify, they are ~400 miles apart so I can see not traveling the distance. But, reading it seems they are reporting what they saw on the news instead of any kind of first hand account. Sure, they called the local police, but in terms of actual reporting it's a bit thin.

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Post by philliphaydon »

c3534l wrote: post #21

What does it say about the world we live in where blogs do more basic journalism than CNN? All that one would have had to do is read the report actually provided. I don't think I'm being too extreme when I say that, apart from maybe PBS, there is no reputable source of news in America. If you don't believe me, pick a random story, watch it as it gets rewritten a million times through Reuters, then check back on the f…

We seem to not care about science anymore for more or less the same reasons.

Media outlets report a single study or conclude something and all of a sudden the world decides the science is done there's no reason to discuss things anymore.

Then the moment someone says something differing from this opinion he is wrong. Even tho he may be proving something factual.

Mass media has ruined a lot of things :(

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Post by vtlynch »

c3534l wrote: post #21

What does it say about the world we live in where blogs do more basic journalism than CNN? All that one would have had to do is read the report actually provided. I don't think I'm being too extreme when I say that, apart from maybe PBS, there is no reputable source of news in America. If you don't believe me, pick a random story, watch it as it gets rewritten a million times through Reuters, then check back on the f…

CNN, MSNBC, and the other "network news" companies rarely do reporting. There are literally thousands of reputable articles published by US outlets yearly - from The Atlantic to the Washington Post. Not everything they publish is good - quality correlates more with the author than anything else.

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Post by the0nly0ne »

wolf550e wrote: post #55
malchow wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WSJ has floors of smart, trained, inquisitive journalists who assemble real original data and break real original stories, and who try hard–through single, double, and triple verification–to ensure the accuracy of every single figure and fact they report. Which is why it's sometimes annoying to see people treat paywalls as though they were moral disgraces. Source: I help invest for the chairman of the company.

WSJ also has a political agenda, which requires a second source for any story in there, from the other point of view.

only way to get unbiased news is from a source that doesn't have advertisers, so they can truly speak their mind and report on the real news.

No Agenda Show [1] (podcast) is pretty reliable source of information as they're 100% listener funded. They basically 'deconstruct' traditional news media, politics and world events and go above and beyond anything that will be ever produced by 'mainstream news'

The show is hosted by one of the 'founders' of podcasting.

[1] http://www.noagendashow.com

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Post by ktRolster »

Symbiote wrote: post #79
ktRolster wrote: post #57

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That sounds about as serious as this article from Vice. It's just click-bait. The worst thing they found (as far as I can see) is that the government required Apple to have a recycling program. What a horrible thing the first article was hiding from us.

The point is, that every manufacturer in the USA has a recycling program, as required by law. Why does Apple's press release get published as news?

That's a fair point, but it's not a lie like the article asserts.

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Post by mtanski »

morcheeba wrote: post #88
techonup wrote: post #86

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This line of argument really needs to be toned down. While it's obviously true that papers like the WSJ, NYT, WashPo, etc. have influential partisan editorial boards, their newsrooms are filled with reporters and editors of various political leanings. More importantly, these reporters are among the best in the country and do their very best to find and report the truth in an unbiased fashion. That's what makes these…

This article turned me off the WSJ: http://www.wsj.com/articles/price-tag-of-bernie-sanders-prop... 18 Trillion -- yikes! It's not until the 5th paragraph that we find out that this includes health insurance and that me and my employer wouldn't have to shell out for that anymore. Does it save me money overall? A question not asked. But they do make a big deal about that number and how alarmed they are at it, even if…

Bernie supporters turn me off to Bernie. I happen to agree with the guy on many (but, not all) problems facing our country and it's people.

But instead on HN, my Facebook & any story about Bernie. His supporters automatically try to counter any kind of scrutiny of the guy, his positions & his plans. For crying out loud The guy is running for president, he's not a saint and he deserves every bit of scrutiny.

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Post by the0nly0ne »

adventured wrote: post #28
c3534l wrote: post #21

What does it say about the world we live in where blogs do more basic journalism than CNN? All that one would have had to do is read the report actually provided. I don't think I'm being too extreme when I say that, apart from maybe PBS, there is no reputable source of news in America. If you don't believe me, pick a random story, watch it as it gets rewritten a million times through Reuters, then check back on the f…

I think you're being too extreme. Bloomberg, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, and to a lesser extent the NY Times are all still reputable, even if they all still produce occasional junk. I don't believe there is a single reputable news source on earth, if the qualification is never producing junk articles.

>the washington post

their agenda and the political leanings of their new master is clear

http://fair.org/home/washington-post-ran-16-negative-stories...

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Post by RockyMcNuts »

malchow wrote: post #34
c3534l wrote: post #21

What does it say about the world we live in where blogs do more basic journalism than CNN? All that one would have had to do is read the report actually provided. I don't think I'm being too extreme when I say that, apart from maybe PBS, there is no reputable source of news in America. If you don't believe me, pick a random story, watch it as it gets rewritten a million times through Reuters, then check back on the f…

WSJ has floors of smart, trained, inquisitive journalists who assemble real original data and break real original stories, and who try hard–through single, double, and triple verification–to ensure the accuracy of every single figure and fact they report. Which is why it's sometimes annoying to see people treat paywalls as though they were moral disgraces. Source: I help invest for the chairman of the company.

are those the guys who said it's a myth that the government played a central role in the development of the Internet?

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100008723963904444643045775390...

WSJ is not even a shadow of what it once was.

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Post by patrickaljord »

jasonpeacock wrote: post #46
c3534l wrote: post #21

What does it say about the world we live in where blogs do more basic journalism than CNN? All that one would have had to do is read the report actually provided. I don't think I'm being too extreme when I say that, apart from maybe PBS, there is no reputable source of news in America. If you don't believe me, pick a random story, watch it as it gets rewritten a million times through Reuters, then check back on the f…

There was Al Jazeera America, but it couldn't make itself profitable. But we still have Al Jazeera English: http://www.aljazeera.com/

> There was Al Jazeera America, but it couldn't make itself profitable. But we still have Al Jazeera English:

Al Jazeera is a non-profit ran by the Qatari government. It was never meant to be profitable. It did shut down because oil prices went down and the Qatari government had to make some cuts.

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