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Re: Ask HN: Gmail alternatives?

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Post by thaumaturgy »

hachiya wrote: post #127
thaumaturgy wrote: post #76

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If you pull down devel-threads from svn, add a couple of plugins, and tweak a few things, RoundCube IMO actually gets better than Gmail.

Interesting. I've liked Roundcube enough to use as a backup way to access mail, but I've never looked at the plugins. What are some of the plugins that you find useful?

The spamassassin plugin lets you control your spam settings from your webmail account.

I also have managesieve installed, and there's a plugin for it too, so with imap, inbound email gets automatically sorted into folders for me, and I can control that from RoundCube. The filtering is actually way more powerful than anything Gmail can do (last time I checked).

Those are the two "must-haves" IMO.

Re: Ask HN: Gmail alternatives?

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Post by thaumaturgy »

z8000 wrote: post #119
thaumaturgy wrote: post #73

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I use RoundCube, and I'm very happy with it so far. It has a very active developer base, and it offers the closest thing to an email client experience. I'm currently working on an "Outlook" theme for it, which should be done soon. My mail server stack looks like: Linode + Postfix + Dovecot (w/mySQL & imap) + RoundCube + SpamAssassin + managesieve. With this setup, I get more powerful mail filters than Gmail, a better…

It would be great if you created a Linode StackScript. This would allow anyone to replicate your configuration on their own Linode easily.

OK. I'll think about that -- my desire to "share and share alike" is struggling a bit with my desire to differentiate from other mail hosting services.

Re: Ask HN: Gmail alternatives?

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Post by DenisM »

robmueller wrote: post #122
DenisM wrote: post #39

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I'm using fastmail for 5 years now. It's good, but not that great. My two problems are: 1. Spam false positives. I get order confirmations or mail list subscriptions sent to spam folder occasionally. 2. Search is really bad. by default it only searches subjects, and I think only in the current folder. Thinking about moving to gmail, provided those guys sort out privacy issues.

(FYI, I'm one of the owners/developers of FastMail) 1. Just add addresses to your address book to whitelist. Also make sure you use Report Spam/Report non-spam on enough emails (200 of each) to activate your personal bayes db (see the Options -> Spam/Virus Protection near the bottom to see how many of each you've already learned) 2. At the moment, you do have to explicitly add body: to a term to do a body search. The…

I'm making orders from all kinds of online stores, there is no way I will add them all to the address book. Especially so because I don't know their address before they send me something, and I don't care about it after their first order confirmation/tracking number email.

Re: Ask HN: Gmail alternatives?

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Post by collint »

ams1 wrote: post #109
jdietrich wrote: post #78

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Absolutely, I use Google for pretty much everything and trust them implicitly. I don't believe that Google will leak anything that matters and think that the whole buzz furore is nonsense whipped up by people who had assumed privacy where there was little reasonable expectation of it. However, if, like the OP, you do not trust a major corporation with a near-immaculate record on data integrity and an industry-leading…

your contact list doesn't matter? it was leaked via buzz.

What exactly is the danger of people having my email address(substitute me with you if it helps)?

Re: Ask HN: Gmail alternatives?

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Post by lsc »

qjz wrote: post #63
rufugee wrote: post #57

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Did it for years. Loved it. The only problem? Hosting providers and colos often reuse IPs that have been blacklisted because of spammers, so one day you realize some folks just haven't been getting your mail. I use a leased server and would switch back from GMail to Zimbra in a heartbeat if I thought I could reliably insure my email would not get blacklisted. There are services out there you can pay for that offer sm…

I've set up a number of mail servers for myself and clients. I've always asked providers upfront to guarantee that I can get assigned to a new netblock if any of the IP addresses they give me show up on any blacklists. In some cases, just asking resulted in getting clean IPs from previously unused netblocks. In the few cases where the IPs were blacklisted, I got new ones without any problems.

Nearly all providers will give you a new IP if your old one got blacklisted before it was assigned to you.

Note; 'clean IPs from unassigned netblocks' are not necessarily good. see bogon filtering[1] - still, running your own mailserver is not an impossibly difficult task.

[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogon_filtering

Re: Ask HN: Gmail alternatives?

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Post by lsc »

pyre wrote: post #69
ori_b wrote: post #54

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There are also plenty of open source desktop IMAP clients; I personally strongly prefer clients like mutt or sylpheed over webmail interfaces. with ssh, I can even look at my mail from anywhere.

> with ssh, I can even look at my mail from anywhere. That's assuming you can get access to PuTTY and/or ssh from anywhere. :-P

I use a laptop with a EVDO modem; totally worth the $70/month to not have to trust whatever virus-infested windows box I happen to be near when I am out of the house.

Re: Ask HN: Gmail alternatives?

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Post by chengas123 »

ams1 wrote: post #109
jdietrich wrote: post #78

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Absolutely, I use Google for pretty much everything and trust them implicitly. I don't believe that Google will leak anything that matters and think that the whole buzz furore is nonsense whipped up by people who had assumed privacy where there was little reasonable expectation of it. However, if, like the OP, you do not trust a major corporation with a near-immaculate record on data integrity and an industry-leading…

your contact list doesn't matter? it was leaked via buzz.

my contact list was not leaked. i think at most the list of people you were auto-following was made public if/when you created a public profile and did not set this information to private
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