What are the next closest products in terms of single day user count?
Probably YKK zippers.
“One billion people used Facebook in a single day”
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Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
My guess would be 1 billion unique accounts logged in today, via one means or another. Absolutely mind blowing.
I wonder how many of those accounts are fake / sockpuppet / astroturf / paid likes
Who care? Even if it was 1 billion bots loging info FB in one day, it would still be massive.
Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”
#133To give you an idea of how big one billion actually is, (assuming you count once per second) it takes over 11 days to count up to 1 million. It takes over 31 years to count up to 1 billion.
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My grandfather, when I was a teenager, wanted to impress upon me the vastness of large money numbers. He was wanting me to better understand how large these sums were when discussing personal wealth in the millions+, as well as how even larger such sums were when discussing government expenditures.
He made me do this same math, suggesting spending $1/second. When I calculated, and wound up with these same numbers for spending $1M & $1B--which I always rounded up to 12 days & 32 years respectively--he succeeded in cementing his point in my mind.
I have never forgotten it in over 20 years.
Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
To paraphrase Han Solo, "yeah, but who's gonna pay for it, kid? You?"
Once upon a time, all Internet protocols were distributed, passed-along by ISPs peering bandwidth (email, IRC, Usenet). The users paid their ISPs, and the ISPs had agreements to share and not bill each other (sort of). This broke down, because most people monetizing an idea don't want others to host it outside their control. And now, even the peering agreement is breaking down, as Verizon tries to shakedown both side…
Usenet still exists, but herding cats never got any easier, and the cost for hosting didn't go away. There is a reason it became marginalized: user experience.
Facebook Zero is no longer doing what you allege, and never actually did. It was just a plan that was scrapped.
Diaspora never had a design or plan to work. It was a couple college kids who thought it would be neat despite never having written a distributed protocol before. We've had lots of smart people attempt this, and haven't gotten anywhere close to a usable "distributed" social network prototypes.
If your idea can't bootstrap itself from zero users the way modern startups work, maybe it isn't such a great idea after all.
Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”
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Well, I don't see Mark claiming any of that in this post. If your machine requests data from Facebook's machine, it's a use of Facebook. There's no way around that. If Facebook sends personalized content in that request, then there really is no argument that this does not constitute a technical use of Facebook. However, in most cases, users are not voluntarily making those requests to Facebook, but are more or less f…
What they count as users is in their SEC filing: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1326801/0001326801130... A public officer of the company isn't going to be haphazard about redefining that without saying so.
You're talking about a different word.
Edit: You'll note that Mark didn't even use that word.
Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”
#136I'm curious to know what the metric is actually measuring. Is it one billion people that hit Facebook.com or used the mobile app? Or is it also counting people that might have triggered a hit just by browsing around sites with Like buttons on them while logged in, but didn't actually use Facebook? To some extent it doesn't matter because it's just such a massive and impressive number, but I'd be curious to know.
Back when I worked there, I "audited" the systems that count Facebook's active users. I needed to analyze code efficiency and feature growth over long periods of time, and so needed very accurate user counts in order to subtract user growth. Without going into details / trade secrets: there is more than one system, they can cross-check each other, and if anything it's conservative. You have to perform legit, non-driv…
Does that include "Like buttons" and other widgets on third party websites or not?
Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”
#137I'm curious to know what the metric is actually measuring. Is it one billion people that hit Facebook.com or used the mobile app? Or is it also counting people that might have triggered a hit just by browsing around sites with Like buttons on them while logged in, but didn't actually use Facebook? To some extent it doesn't matter because it's just such a massive and impressive number, but I'd be curious to know.
Back when I worked there, I "audited" the systems that count Facebook's active users. I needed to analyze code efficiency and feature growth over long periods of time, and so needed very accurate user counts in order to subtract user growth. Without going into details / trade secrets: there is more than one system, they can cross-check each other, and if anything it's conservative. You have to perform legit, non-driv…
They are not talking about active users. The metric quoted was "used Facebook in a single day". I know for a fact that they count any "Like" click or any Facebook comment on any web page on the internet when they quote "used Facebook". It does not mean logged into one of their apps.
Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Back when I worked there, I "audited" the systems that count Facebook's active users. I needed to analyze code efficiency and feature growth over long periods of time, and so needed very accurate user counts in order to subtract user growth. Without going into details / trade secrets: there is more than one system, they can cross-check each other, and if anything it's conservative. You have to perform legit, non-driv…
Does that include "Like buttons" and other widgets on third party websites or not?
Yes this metric counts those too.
Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”
#139To give you an idea of how big one billion actually is, (assuming you count once per second) it takes over 11 days to count up to 1 million. It takes over 31 years to count up to 1 billion.
Probably a lot longer than that. > assuming you count once per second One second is counting pretty slow for small numbers, but it's counting really fast for big numbers. (How quickly can you say "three hundred twenty five million seven hundred ninety six thousand one hundred seventeen"?) And there are a lot more big numbers than small numbers.
I agree that at some point (probably reasonably early on actually) it would start taking longer to say the number out loud than one second, so you'd fall behind.
However we're talking about counting which is not necessarily saying it out loud. You could just be pushing a button every second, or watching a drop of water fall from a pipe at a constant rate.
Anyway, I remember learning this little fact as a kid and it making the numbers (and the difference in magnitude between them) much more tangible.
For context, at a rate of 1/sec/sec:
1 = 1 sec
10 = 10 sec
100 = ~1.5 min
1000 = ~17 min
10,000 = ~3 hours
100,000 = ~1 day
1,000,000 = ~12 days
10,000,000 = ~4 months
100,000,000 = ~3 years
1,000,000,000 = ~32 yearsRe: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
To paraphrase Han Solo, "yeah, but who's gonna pay for it, kid? You?"
Once upon a time, all Internet protocols were distributed, passed-along by ISPs peering bandwidth (email, IRC, Usenet). The users paid their ISPs, and the ISPs had agreements to share and not bill each other (sort of). This broke down, because most people monetizing an idea don't want others to host it outside their control. And now, even the peering agreement is breaking down, as Verizon tries to shakedown both side…
> In Africa, Facebook Zero is trying to create the illusion that there's no other Internet, just Facebook.
If there is no Internet access then there is no Internet. Critics of Facebook's initiatives should need to provide compelling alternatives if they want to be taken seriously.