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Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”

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andrepd wrote: post #73
r3bl wrote: post #50

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> What's the most an attacker could likely get? Remember that thing when a guy from Europe asked from Facebook to give him everything they knew about him (which European citizens are allowed to request by law) and got over 1000 pages of information from Facebook? Now, multiply that by a billion (well, two or three billions actually).

>which European citizens are allowed to request by law Can they? TIL. It would be a fun thing to know, exactly how much they know about you.

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Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”

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Post by civilian »

gpcz wrote: post #32
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #8

When the Facebook hack comes, it will be devastating.

Getting in might be possible, but then the attacker would have to covertly exfiltrate and store all of Facebook's content to do a dump. Does J. Random Attacker have enough storage to do this?

Use facebook's cache to host the stolen data and have it downloaded in parallel over the internet.

Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”

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Post by KingMob »

cheald wrote: post #105
guelo wrote: post #99

To me it's sad and scary for humanity that one profit seeking corporation has managed to wedge itself in the middle of all our relationships. In my ideal world Facebook would be run by a benevolent nonprofit, ala Wikipedia but more democratic.

To paraphrase Han Solo, "yeah, but who's gonna pay for it, kid? You?"

Once upon a time, all Internet protocols were distributed, passed-along by ISPs peering bandwidth (email, IRC, Usenet). The users paid their ISPs, and the ISPs had agreements to share and not bill each other (sort of).

This broke down, because most people monetizing an idea don't want others to host it outside their control. And now, even the peering agreement is breaking down, as Verizon tries to shakedown both sides of a network connection, and not just their subscribers.

We had a friendly, open Internet, and now we have ads and closed-ecosystem apps. In Africa, Facebook Zero is trying to create the illusion that there's no other Internet, just Facebook.

If things like Diaspora had the resources Facebook did, we could totally have distributed social networking, paid for by users.

Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”

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Post by res0nat0r »

jsprogrammer wrote: post #94
alanh wrote: post #89

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Facebook doesn’t measure usage quite so haphazardly. This has been a topic of discussion earlier, and relevant to their SEC / financial filings. Viewing an embedded widget doesn’t count, but clicking it or signing in to an app with Facebook does.

Well, I don't see Mark claiming any of that in this post. If your machine requests data from Facebook's machine, it's a use of Facebook. There's no way around that. If Facebook sends personalized content in that request, then there really is no argument that this does not constitute a technical use of Facebook. However, in most cases, users are not voluntarily making those requests to Facebook, but are more or less f…

Why does everyone always think Facebook is lying when it comes to these type of things? What good does it serve them to do so?

Seems to me it is mainly just due to the fact that most here haven't worked at anything anywhere close to FB scale and can't believe it can actually be true.

Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”

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Post by gpcz »

0942v8653 wrote: post #45
gpcz wrote: post #32

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Getting in might be possible, but then the attacker would have to covertly exfiltrate and store all of Facebook's content to do a dump. Does J. Random Attacker have enough storage to do this?

Maybe; realistically, the Internet speed would probably be more of a limiting factor. At mine, it would take almost a week to fill up 1 terabyte of storage. That's plenty of time to go get a few more HDDs. At 1 Gbps you'd have about 2 hours.

I think you're underestimating the scale of this problem.

According to http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2013/01/18/faceb... , people upload 350 million new photos per day, and they have 240 billion photos total. If we use 1 MB per photo as an average, you'd need about 334 terabytes to store a day of Facebook's pictures. You'd need 228882 terabytes to store the whole thing. Assuming Wikipedia's estimate of $35/TB for desktop hard drives, it would cost about $8 million to store Facebook's photo archive (that's without videos or text). Actually hosting it would cost even more.

Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”

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Post by nl »

jsprogrammer wrote: post #94
alanh wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook doesn’t measure usage quite so haphazardly. This has been a topic of discussion earlier, and relevant to their SEC / financial filings. Viewing an embedded widget doesn’t count, but clicking it or signing in to an app with Facebook does.

Well, I don't see Mark claiming any of that in this post. If your machine requests data from Facebook's machine, it's a use of Facebook. There's no way around that. If Facebook sends personalized content in that request, then there really is no argument that this does not constitute a technical use of Facebook. However, in most cases, users are not voluntarily making those requests to Facebook, but are more or less f…

What they count as users is in their SEC filing: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1326801/0001326801130...

A public officer of the company isn't going to be haphazard about redefining that without saying so.

Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”

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Post by hk__2 »

jgalt212 wrote: post #103
onedev wrote: post #64

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I think you underestimate the scale of Facebook to be honest. It's MASSIVE.

I think you may be underestimating the amount of facebook attrition over the past 3-4 years.

Do you have any data on that?

Re: “One billion people used Facebook in a single day”

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Post by r0m4n0 »

alanh wrote: post #97
tbomb wrote: post #18

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It's still over the internet, right?

Of course, but web ≠ internet.

Probably closer to a Venn diagram where the internet encompasses the web and more. SMTP, FTP etc. Splitting hairs now
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