8^8 – Find another you • Hacker News Board

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by abruzzi » Sat, May 16, 2015, 5:43 AM UTC

robocat wrote: post #82

XYEaQMZJvS wrote: post #22

I really like the concept, but I find the implementation disappointing. I know it sounds dumb, but I think of myself as being a rather odd person, and not just like, collecting human skulls odd. It's hard to explain, but I don't feel that most people would get me, or like me once they got to know me. I'd love to find someone who's just like me (sometimes), so when I first clicked, I was a little excited, perhaps naiv…

Fortunately there are many people who have a generic like towards oddity. There are also plenty of people that only care about a few things important to them, and don't care much about extra oddities. If you care about the feelings of someone, and you like them, that goes a long way towards them liking you. If you are non-judgemental about the oddities of others, that helps a lot too.

I've never tried the questionnaires on dating sites, but it seems you'd get better results with paired questions. Ask person A what they're looking for in attribute X. Ask person B to describe themselves in attribute X. So someone that is emotionally submissive that likes a partner that is emotionally dominant gets matched with someone that is emotionally dominant that prefers a partner that is emotionally submissive.

Of course that assumes that the person even consciously knows what they want. I don't know how true that is.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by raverbashing » Sat, May 16, 2015, 7:22 AM UTC

eevilspock wrote: post #110

DanielStraight wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for putting into clear words my gut impression that this wouldn't produce the intended result. I wonder if you couldn't do better with binary questions. I'm reminded of the site http://www.correlated.org/ . Suppose you were to ask a bunch of binary questions, and then use some statistics to find questions that have fairly evenly distributed and non-correlated results, then take 24 of the best questions by t…

okcupid does exactly this. Most of their questions are submitted by the users themselves, and they have hundreds if not thousands of them, but they present the questions to you in the order of most differentiating first. You can answer as many or as few as you want, but matches get better as you answer more, with monotonically diminishing returns. You also get to say which answers you would accept from your match (do…

> My gut tells me it's akin to doing principle component analysis

Or a decision tree, maybe

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by meric » Sat, May 16, 2015, 7:30 AM UTC

btilly wrote: post #97

Interesting idea. Bad execution. There is NO way that performance should be so bad given current load. Some of the questions are frustrating. For instance question #4 is "YOU SAVE AN OLD LADY'S LIFE. IN GRATITUDE SHE GIVES YOU $100,000. WHAT DO YOU DO WITH MOST OF IT?" The obvious answer for me is, "Save it." But all possible answers are ways to spend it or give it away. I chose "Move to a nicer neighborhood", but th…

If you save into a bank account, your business is "Lend banks money".

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by Glyptodon » Sat, May 16, 2015, 7:32 AM UTC

Some of the questions need more choices. Didn't feel happy with any of the answers for some of the questions.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by raverbashing » Sat, May 16, 2015, 7:50 AM UTC

Nadya wrote: post #77

gattis wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the MBTI example and use of weighting only makes it more clear that this "case study" is dead from the start, because it shows it takes many questions just to ascertain someone's position on each eigenvector. For example, the most important explanatory personality trait is masculinity vs femininity. How do you ascertain that with one question and 8 answers? For example a question asking if you are male or female only…

If it were trying to match people based on their personalities and not their direct line of thinking - you would be correct. Until the results speak for themselves (ie. accuracy of matches) you have no way of knowing if this is a complete failure or successful venture. Although you are free to speculate that it will be meaningless due to the methodology, you have no evidence to back that up yet. Many dating sites wor…

> The birthday paradox is 1/365

You mean, for 2 people? It's higher than that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by Freeboots » Sat, May 16, 2015, 8:00 AM UTC

DanielStraight wrote: post #30

gattis wrote: post #12

"Take the 8^8 test and the likelihood of someone else answering in the exact same pattern as yourself is 1 in 16,777,216" That requires A) the distribution of answers is even across all 8 options, and B) there are zero correlations between any two answers in the quiz. Not to mention that the 8 questions have to pretty accurately split the space of human personalities down into eigen-answers that explain the most vari…

Thank you for putting into clear words my gut impression that this wouldn't produce the intended result. I wonder if you couldn't do better with binary questions. I'm reminded of the site http://www.correlated.org/ . Suppose you were to ask a bunch of binary questions, and then use some statistics to find questions that have fairly evenly distributed and non-correlated results, then take 24 of the best questions by t…

This site is amazing.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by abustamam » Sat, May 16, 2015, 8:05 AM UTC

TheMakeA wrote: post #45

There seems to be an awful lot of gratuitous negativity going on here. The site was on Reddit yesterday, now it's on the front page of HN. Maybe the author can't throw a lot of resources at it, or they used the project as an excuse to learn a new stack. Who knows. Maybe it was slow for you. Maybe it's not a mathematically sound idea. Maybe the questions aren't ideal. The CAPTCHA isn't ideal. Who cares? There's no nee…

I don't see anyone being "mean," and I don't see anyone criticizing the author. Yes there's some negativity, but it's not negativity for the sake of being negative---they are fair points.

The idea of being 1 in 8x8 is a novel idea to me, but after reading a few comments here I found that it's not really sound.

One thing that really stands out to me that I haven't seen explicitly mentioned here is the fact that humans are not simply 8 dimensional. At a party, maybe sometimes I like to chill at the couch for a bit, then get to meet some new people, exchange some numbers, meet up with friends, etc...

And the same goes for any other question. $100k can go a long way, but I'd like to save some, spend some, donate some, etc.

Like I said, I like the idea of the project, but the idea that any open-ended question can have only 8 unique answers is not so sound.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by Tenobrus » Sat, May 16, 2015, 8:05 AM UTC

Nadya wrote: post #40

pavel_lishin wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> On the other hand, I would feel a bit bad for using up some of the "freebies" that legitimate people might miss out on I wonder what the legality of publishing their questions and answers are. If we can duplicate their questions and answers, people could find each other on twitter with a hashtag: #my8x8is{answer 1}{answer 2}...{answer 2}

What would this accomplish, other than perhaps not giving their email to 8x8? If they have taken the 8x8 test to know their answers, they may as well enter an email address to be alerted when they have a match. Rather than checking Twitter, seeing as 8x8 already plans to email you if you have a match. In theory if two Twitter users took the test and were a match - there would be no need to use a hashtag to tweet. Thi…

It would bypass the fee they apparently charge to actually connect matches (mentioned at the bottom of their homepage).

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by abustamam » Sat, May 16, 2015, 8:07 AM UTC

edem wrote: post #107

At the time of writing there are 15099 filled tests so producing a match (assuming that all 8 answers must be the same) is highly unlikely (0,08%) if I assume even distribution.

Assuming even distribution, there would need to be 8^8 quizzes taken before there's a match.

Will we get that many people to take the quiz? I guess time will tell.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by abustamam » Sat, May 16, 2015, 8:09 AM UTC

I wish there were a way to see what your results were. I took the test this evening; it'd be neat to retake it in a week and see if my answers match the ones I provided tonight.