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Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by gattis »

Nadya wrote: post #77
gattis wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the MBTI example and use of weighting only makes it more clear that this "case study" is dead from the start, because it shows it takes many questions just to ascertain someone's position on each eigenvector. For example, the most important explanatory personality trait is masculinity vs femininity. How do you ascertain that with one question and 8 answers? For example a question asking if you are male or female only…

If it were trying to match people based on their personalities and not their direct line of thinking - you would be correct. Until the results speak for themselves (ie. accuracy of matches) you have no way of knowing if this is a complete failure or successful venture. Although you are free to speculate that it will be meaningless due to the methodology, you have no evidence to back that up yet. Many dating sites wor…

I just did the math and at 12000 people and 16777216 possibilities, 98.63% chance there's at least 1 match. Not buyin' it!

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

#82

Post by robocat »

XYEaQMZJvS wrote: post #22

I really like the concept, but I find the implementation disappointing. I know it sounds dumb, but I think of myself as being a rather odd person, and not just like, collecting human skulls odd. It's hard to explain, but I don't feel that most people would get me, or like me once they got to know me. I'd love to find someone who's just like me (sometimes), so when I first clicked, I was a little excited, perhaps naiv…

Fortunately there are many people who have a generic like towards oddity.

There are also plenty of people that only care about a few things important to them, and don't care much about extra oddities.

If you care about the feelings of someone, and you like them, that goes a long way towards them liking you. If you are non-judgemental about the oddities of others, that helps a lot too.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by gattis »

gattis wrote: post #81
Nadya wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it were trying to match people based on their personalities and not their direct line of thinking - you would be correct. Until the results speak for themselves (ie. accuracy of matches) you have no way of knowing if this is a complete failure or successful venture. Although you are free to speculate that it will be meaningless due to the methodology, you have no evidence to back that up yet. Many dating sites wor…

I just did the math and at 12000 people and 16777216 possibilities, 98.63% chance there's at least 1 match. Not buyin' it!

and it only gets worse as possibilities become less evenly distributed! we are approaching 100% probability this is all bullshit and won't work at all.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by robocat »

Sampling bias: I actually don't want to find me (I already know where to find men similar enough to me).

Complements: for many traits, I prefer someone who has a strength where I have a weakness. I like opposing opinions as they help me work out my wrongnesses.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by laumars »

robocat wrote: post #85

Sampling bias: I actually don't want to find me (I already know where to find men similar enough to me). Complements: for many traits, I prefer someone who has a strength where I have a weakness. I like opposing opinions as they help me work out my wrongnesses.

I was thinking this after the 1st question, which asked what sort of person are you at a party. One of the answers was "being the centre of the attention" and often you find people who are that way inclined will fight others who are similar.

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by oaktowner »

hvm wrote: post #19

Yeah, the site is painfully slow. A site with a multiple choice test should handle thousands of users at a time with a tiny server. How is this thing made?

I know this sounds mean-spirited, but it's not. I'd be interested to know how this was developed as an example of what not to do. I wonder what the architecture is (and how it could/should be improved).

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by Nadya »

gattis wrote: post #81
Nadya wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it were trying to match people based on their personalities and not their direct line of thinking - you would be correct. Until the results speak for themselves (ie. accuracy of matches) you have no way of knowing if this is a complete failure or successful venture. Although you are free to speculate that it will be meaningless due to the methodology, you have no evidence to back that up yet. Many dating sites wor…

I just did the math and at 12000 people and 16777216 possibilities, 98.63% chance there's at least 1 match. Not buyin' it!

According to the Reddit page the number of tests and matches found is accurate.

There were 11,300~ tests when the page last loaded for me. They are caching the results of the tests and refreshing non-live time in an attempt to put less stress on the server.

There were 0 matches at that time. While I'm wary of site-counters - I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

E: The formula is

P(N) = 1 - prod[ 1 - (i-1)/(88 ) , i = 1,2,3,...N]

At 15,000~ there should be a match. So while pretty high at 12,000~ it's still in the realm of possibility that there is not a match, just very unlikely.

There's also the chance they haven't had the ability to check for matches because their servers been down so often so they haven't been calculating for them. So there is a chance that there is a match in the data but it hasn't been calculated and so wasn't showing when I checked at 11,300~

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by supertruth »

gattis wrote: post #81
Nadya wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it were trying to match people based on their personalities and not their direct line of thinking - you would be correct. Until the results speak for themselves (ie. accuracy of matches) you have no way of knowing if this is a complete failure or successful venture. Although you are free to speculate that it will be meaningless due to the methodology, you have no evidence to back that up yet. Many dating sites wor…

I just did the math and at 12000 people and 16777216 possibilities, 98.63% chance there's at least 1 match. Not buyin' it!

for the curious:

    (1 - reduce(operator.mul, map(lambda a: (8 ** 8.0 - a) / 8 ** 8, range(12000)))) * 100.0

Re: 8^8 – Find another you

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Post by brudgers »

gattis wrote: post #12

"Take the 8^8 test and the likelihood of someone else answering in the exact same pattern as yourself is 1 in 16,777,216" That requires A) the distribution of answers is even across all 8 options, and B) there are zero correlations between any two answers in the quiz. Not to mention that the 8 questions have to pretty accurately split the space of human personalities down into eigen-answers that explain the most vari…

The survey instrument could be perfectly constructed and the methodology still grossly flawed.

Because the population only consists of people who are willing to take the test [and have internet access and speak English etc.] generalizing the data is problematic at best.

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