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Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

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Post by veidr »

alextgordon wrote: post #119
veidr wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can confirm that text encoding is still a real pain in Japan. Despite the fact that we now have UTF-8, which should be used whenever possible, legacy encodings like SJIS, EUC, etc. still abound. For instance, whenever I download CSV bank or credit card data here in Japan, I always have to convert the file from one of those encodings before using it. At work in Tokyo, I deal with email in these encoding (or worse --…

Off-topic response: w.r.t. code completion plugins in Chocolat, the hard part is already done. With v3, the plugin API is now process-separated, and communication is over mach ports. Now that there's a stable, non-blocking and low-latency foundation for plugins, all I need to do is figure out a good API for it. My advice to aspiring text editor authors would be: do development on the slowest most outdated computer yo…

That is great to hear! I bought Chocolat (a purchase mainly instigated by the hilarious "the demo expired so it still works, but only with Comic Sans font" gimmick). And I even sent friends screenshots[1] raving about its completion UI.

But... Chocolat didn't really stick for me, with the plethora of editors I already use. Even though it's good.

I would definitely revisit it, if it got extensible completion.

[1]: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r2da0rc7spgpxqq/Screenshot%202014-...

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

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Post by sjm »

JadeNB wrote: post #107
Tloewald wrote: post #96

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BBEdit's multi-file search and replace (and it's compare) alone are worth it. I keep coming back to BBEdit for search and replace, even if I prefer other editors for other things. I use a lot of different editors too, rotating among favorites. The one thing I do not consistently use are modal keyboard-centric editors like vim and emacs. I get that some people like them, but they've never done much for me. (And yes, I…

> The one thing I do not consistently use are modal keyboard-centric editors like vim and emacs. As a vim-er and not an Emacs-er, asking genuinely and not out of snark, surely Emacs is eminently non- modal (at least, not modal in the same way that vim is)?

Well technically Emacs is just a Lisp interpreter with some text editing facilities by default. With evil-mode it is just as modal as vim throughout.

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

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Post by Aldo_MX »

veidr wrote: post #93
heliodor wrote: post #88

Looks beautiful and well-designed. Clearly a lot of effort has gone into it. I can't say I will try as I don't see enough selling points to peel me away from Sublime. I see some features that seem to address some pain points of Japanese users, so maybe that demographic will be more interested. Looking at the screenshots, I have to wonder why the developer chose to place the settings for line endings, encoding, and fi…

I can confirm that text encoding is still a real pain in Japan. Despite the fact that we now have UTF-8, which should be used whenever possible, legacy encodings like SJIS, EUC, etc. still abound. For instance, whenever I download CSV bank or credit card data here in Japan, I always have to convert the file from one of those encodings before using it. At work in Tokyo, I deal with email in these encoding (or worse --…

Not only Japan, even México (Mojibake intended) suffers from ANSI thanks to Windows still using ANSI as the default encoding for programs like Notepad.

To people not familiar with Mojibake, this is a Japanese word in 4 different encodings:

UTF-8: 煩わしい

ANSI: 煩わしい

SJIS: ”ς킵‚¢

EUC: Ûáªïª·ª¤

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

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Post by tuhdo »

davidwparker wrote: post #114
fdsary wrote: post #5

I'm pretty effective with vim, so much that other 'normal' editors like sublime & other modern gui editors make me feel a little crippled. That is a problem, because you need to be flexible about things in life. Has anyone succeeded in deliberately changing editors, even when not feeling like it's necessary? I'm especially curious how I could start using emacs, and actually get up to speed with it instead of using it…

I switched from Emacs to both LightTable and Atom full-time. While I'm much more efficient in Emacs, integration are the killer features in the other two, in a way that I didn't have my .emacs setup. With LightTable, I do mostly WebGL and I often have a browser tab up with my live WebGL stuff all the time. This is super efficient and extremely nice. With Atom, I do mostly web development. Quickly jumping between file…

How is it faster than Projectile? Demos in here: http://tuhdo.github.io/helm-projectile.html. With Projectile, I can jump to any file quickly, even with source tree as large as Linux kernel with more than 36k files. If a file is in a project, regardless of where I see it, even in a plain .txt file, I can jump to it: http://tuhdo.github.io/static/helm-projectile/helm-projectil...

If you want that live web stuff, you can try skewer-mode: https://github.com/skeeto/skewer-mode

Re: CotEditor – Text Editor for OS X

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Post by agentultra »

fdsary wrote: post #5

I'm pretty effective with vim, so much that other 'normal' editors like sublime & other modern gui editors make me feel a little crippled. That is a problem, because you need to be flexible about things in life. Has anyone succeeded in deliberately changing editors, even when not feeling like it's necessary? I'm especially curious how I could start using emacs, and actually get up to speed with it instead of using it…

I succeeded. And haven't gone back. It took me about two weeks to transition. I had 10 years of vi(m) behind me when I gave emacs a go. I wrote about it back in 2008[0][1].

I still have the fundamental vi(m) motions in my bones... but I prefer emacs today.

[0] http://agentultra.com/2008/11/12/seeking-enlightenment-in-a-...

[1] http://agentultra.com/2008/11/19/seeking-enlightenment-in-a-...

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