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OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Upgrading now: 5.16 gigs. Hah! This is going to take all night. Looks like everyone's downloading it at the same time. I was quite impressed by 10.10 from the Keynote a few weeks ago, and I'm looking forward to experiencing some of that. No iPhone so can't enjoy that level of integration, but perhaps my iPad will be happier. Meanwhile I have a Nexus 5 on order, and I'm debugging problems with my Linux PC's new mother…

Took around half an hour to download for me a couple of hours ago. (I'm in Australia, and one of the few blessed with a 'decent' internet connection)

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

I started experiencing GPU panics on rMBP in the past week as well, I guess NVidia or related circuits have some issues. I switched it off using gfxcardstatus and now it's stable running on Intel HD only. Try to do the same - if it stops crashing, your discrete GPU might be damaged.

I had the same issue with my mid-2010 MBP. They actually had a recall, but I was late to it! I'm somewhat disappointed that this issue still persists in some later models. gfxcardstatus helped a little in my situation, but the problem got so bad that I literally could not used the computer. $3K down the drain :(

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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This. Shadows (fake 3D), textures, colors, and other elements may seem like a gimmick, but they are fundamentally crucial in visual cognition of the UI. What's sad is that so much UI design is driven by meaningless trends instead of more precise research data on how well UI elements work.

Are they actually crucial, though? There was a ton of gnashing of teeth about iOS 7 (and other "flat" designs) but one rarely hears those anymore… and it's not at all clear to me that less-savvy users are having more trouble operating their devices than they did a couple of years ago. In fact, it seems just the opposite, that these devices have steadily continued to integrate themselves into people's lives more than…

It takes me significantly longer to identify control elements under the new design bible, especially the un-bordered text "buttons". Smart phones are taking off despite this, not because of it - it's because of the massive new capabilities they afford people.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Was it the Displaylink Dual-DVI adapter? Ugh, that was broken for quite a few versions for 2011ish-era devices as soon as Mavericks came out. It took them a few versions to actually fix that up, almost as if they hadn't noticed it was broken. I'm tempted to try a test install separate from my regular install after getting burned on that last time.

I recently bought a DVI to USB adapter so that I could plug a second monitor into my 2012 MBA. It wasnt until I actually set it up that I learned of all the trouble. I wouldnt say the set up I have now is perfect but it is workable. I'd hate to upgrade to Yosemite and have everything go to hell though. Is it possible to downgrade if I have problems?

If your on Maverics you should be Ok not upgrading for a while. I used one of those adapter with snow leopard on a mac book up to this spring (upgrading compatability being questionable). It finally became clear that enough software needed a new OS that I got a newer machine.

Mavericks beachballs on a way faster machine more often than it ever did on snow leopard. I miss that os.

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protip: delete /usr/local/Cellars and posibbly LiveTex before upgrade OSX.

I'm curious, why should I delete /usr/local/Cellars?

The reason that Yosemite/Mavericks stall for a long time (although they inform users wrongly that there would be few minutes left, causing panic) is due to the copying and moving things in /usr/local/. If you have a huge /usr/local, it will take hours. Chances are you will need to remove /usr/local/Cellars and reinstall home-brew anyway. So, removing it first will save you some time.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

Every time I am intrigued by Apple's UI design I get taken back to reality by threads like these. Thank you. FYI, there are OS distributions that do not crash . My sound card sometimes doesn't survive a hibernation but that's a known hardware fault. Not that a OS level crash would lead to any data loss.

FWIW, I have rarely if ever seen OS X crash. I'm unsure what that would even look like. Are we talking about kernel panics? A single built-in app crashing while you using it? Every app suddenly closing?

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Every time I am intrigued by Apple's UI design I get taken back to reality by threads like these. Thank you. FYI, there are OS distributions that do not crash . My sound card sometimes doesn't survive a hibernation but that's a known hardware fault. Not that a OS level crash would lead to any data loss.

FWIW, I have rarely if ever seen OS X crash. I'm unsure what that would even look like. Are we talking about kernel panics? A single built-in app crashing while you using it? Every app suddenly closing?

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT200553

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How often does your MBP crash?

I'm not the OP, but my (new) MBP crashes twice a month when surfing or coding (Sublime, Typescript, Node). It crashes daily if I use Parallels and regularly when using Spotify.

These days I use VMWare, but I've got co-workers with Parallels installed and all day everyday they have random kernel panics and crashes. Uninstall Parallels and most likely all of that stuff will go away...

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Can't you just turn the brightness down to zero?

Yes, but it's not the same as turning the display off. The GPU is still outputting signal to the Macbook Pro screen.

Wow, I hadn't considered that. It might explain why I get terrible battery life when playing movies on a TV over HDMI with the screen "turned off" by dimming it down to zero. Thanks for the hint.
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