So you're posting this here just in case hackers don't read newspapers?
Surprised to see that Michael Jackson's death received far more attention and positive remarks than what is being said here.
Ted Kennedy has died
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
"If enough of us flag it, then the article gets killed." I am sure many people are flagging this article. That said, I'd be very surprised if this story got killed. I think the "get enough flags and the story gets automatically killed" feature is overridden for stories with a large number of upvotes and needs moderator approval. I suspect this is one of those cases where the majority of American HN users can't see wh…
I doubt many people were flagging the story because the "flag" feature is very subtle. Maybe now that someone has mentioned flagging, this story will soon be dead. I guess time will tell.
I'm fairly sure that some of these get left alive because people insist on submitting it over and over again if the post gets [dead]ed.
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#123So you're posting this here just in case hackers don't read newspapers?
Right on. Those of us outside the states just don't care that one of your politicians died - unless he was a competent computer expert. I come here for "Hacker News", not political death notices. Shall I post here when a long-serving New Zealand politician dies?
If you want. But the sad fact is, no one will care about that story.
And if people do care, the story will get a bunch of upvotes. Let the voting and flagging systems work their magic.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
I do see a problem in ignoring a fault when that fault is "killed someone and received no punishment for it". It's an injustice to the victim to do anything else. If Justice is not an ideal you hold than you wouldn't agree with me on that.
Suggesting I don't believe in justice because I like Ted Kennedy? That's a bit vicious, don't you think? Look, I think that Ted deserved punishment for what he did. Of course he did. At the same time, I can't blame him for using connections to get out of that mess. I'll be totally honest and say that if I fucked up big-time, I'd do everything I could to avoid years in prison for it. Not because I think people should…
> Certainly the Ted Kennedy that died today was not the Ted Kennedy that once abandoned a dying woman.
In my experience that is a fallacy. Besides he was a politician - they know all about expected response. I don't think anyone here can make a statement like that.
(I know nothing about him, but it was a pretty sick thing to do. He certainly deserved a worse punishment)
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#125Why is this here? I'm a US citizen and I still don't think it ought to be.
It shouldn't be, but politics is a religion for many who lean left. One of the biggest liberal names just passed away, so it's here. My comment is way out of line, but so is this submission, but that's what happens when politics is introduced.
It shouldn't be, but politics is a religion for many who lean left.
Complete and utter flamebait. Worse, it's tripe ... the comment doesn't even make sense.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
It shouldn't be, but politics is a religion for many who lean left Aw crap, you and I are now gong to start a political argument on HN. Well it's a Ted Kennedy story so here we go. A clear majority of hackers, including me, are libertarians, not liberals. And I guess (but actually mostly hope) most of the HN readership is libertarian. And I definitely don't think this belongs on HN. But I also very much doubt "libera…
I'll end it. I hope you have a wonderful day my dear HN friend.
Thank you, and the same to you my friend.
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#127I heard some young girl was drunk and got in a car accident, and left him for dead. (too soon?)
I heard that some guy joined Facebook and left TipJoy for dead. (too soon?) ;)
lol.
On a serious note, I wrote the comment mainly because people ignore manslaughter, which is inexcusable. But also because a person that spends years in public office isn't there "for the public good". That's just rhetoric that gets people elected. I'm amazed people still buy into the idea that politicians are good people. Enterprising startup founders, or even miscellaneous hackers working on interesting projects, do far more for the public good.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for your clarification and insight:) Being born in 1981, I'll write my previous comment off to generational ignorance. I appreciate your thorough and thoughtful response.
The year you were born in can not be an excuse for ignorance on any level. Yesterday it was 'the holocaust was before my time', now this. There are history books aplenty out there.
I wasn't aware, Jacques, that it was our responsibility to be aware of every tragedy and every death in the history of mankind.
I could spend years studying every genocide, every cruelty, going on in the world today, all of which are worse than a single drunk driving accident. I could spend years and plummet into the darker parts of the world. I choose not to.
Not knowing who Ted Kennedy is an ignorance that can surely be forgiven.
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#129Ok, now I see why we should stay away from politics on HN. Too many people are downvoting/upvoting based on their political perceptions of TK. Do you really need to downvote someone into the negative for simply saying they liked the guy?
Jeez, they downvoted you for it, too.
Hacker News is very mature regarding certain things; regarding others, they act like kneejerk jackasses. Politics is one of the latter categories.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Suggesting I don't believe in justice because I like Ted Kennedy? That's a bit vicious, don't you think? Look, I think that Ted deserved punishment for what he did. Of course he did. At the same time, I can't blame him for using connections to get out of that mess. I'll be totally honest and say that if I fucked up big-time, I'd do everything I could to avoid years in prison for it. Not because I think people should…
> Certainly the Ted Kennedy that died today was not the Ted Kennedy that once abandoned a dying woman. In my experience that is a fallacy. Besides he was a politician - they know all about expected response. I don't think anyone here can make a statement like that. (I know nothing about him, but it was a pretty sick thing to do. He certainly deserved a worse punishment)
He did. But avoiding punishment for that crime does not immediately make him a terrible human being, or a human being that's incapable of changing. He certainly changed, and for the better.
(I'll ignore the "he was a politician" quip, which proves nothing and says nothing.)