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Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by adobriyan »

ochekurishvili wrote: post #118
adobriyan wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember when Georgia attacked Southern Osetia night before China Olympics? Our western friends are more delicate this time.

And Russian reaction was correct right? Ignore boundaries of sovereign state (Georgia), annex its' territories outside of conflict zone (Gori, Georgia) and all in order to "defend their friends". Are you aware that Russia perfectly timed it's Kavkaz 2008 military training near the border of Georgian Region of South Osetia? Just several days earlier before conflict heated up. And what Russia does when conflict begins?…

> And Russian reaction was correct right?

So, it's Russia bringing itself to war only to screw up media coverage of China olympics.

Nice conspiracy theory...

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by Elhana »

ochekurishvili wrote: post #118
adobriyan wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember when Georgia attacked Southern Osetia night before China Olympics? Our western friends are more delicate this time.

And Russian reaction was correct right? Ignore boundaries of sovereign state (Georgia), annex its' territories outside of conflict zone (Gori, Georgia) and all in order to "defend their friends". Are you aware that Russia perfectly timed it's Kavkaz 2008 military training near the border of Georgian Region of South Osetia? Just several days earlier before conflict heated up. And what Russia does when conflict begins?…

Suppose one day you notice your neighbor beating a crap out of his kids with a baseball bat, should you ignore boundaries of his property (house) and stop him in order to defend his kids? Although it becomes common this days people would just pull out their phones and start shooting a video for youtube instead.. maybe you are one of those.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by aestra »

mercurial wrote: post #81
chimeracoder wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That analysis isn't entirely accurate either. For example: > Since 1993 gay sex was made legal in Russia, in 12 US States gay sex is a crime. The law is still on the books, but ever since Lawrence v. Texas [0], gay sex is legal in all 50 states (and all US territories). They're on the books simply because of inertia - there's no impetus to pass a new law repealing a law that's already been invalidated. Others include…

> This depends highly on the state. Some states even protect transgender individuals. Are you seriously saying that you can legally fire somebody for being gay in some US states? Wouldn't you get sued for discrimination if you did that?

Yes, you can, in SOME places in the United States. The reason being is being gay isn't a "protected" status in FEDERAL civil rights legislation.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 outlawed discrimination against racial, ethnic, national and religious minorities, and women. Before that one could say "black people need not apply" on a job description or ask women if they were going to be having children soon on a job interview. Being gay was never defined as a protected group outright.

That being said, SOME States in the United States have taken it one step further and made homosexuals a protected group and disallowed discrimination against them under STATE law. Some companies have specifically outlawed discrimination against gays via official company policy and extended employee benefits to same sex partners.

I don't know if you can see this video outside of the United States, but try to watch it! It gives some examples of people being fired for being gay, and an interview with a completely clueless State lawmaker.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-may-3-2012/free-at-las...

EDIT:

Looks like I'm slightly wrong.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964 has been interpreted to apply to gays recently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_State...

In 2011 and 2012, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission ruled that job discrimination against Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals and Transgenders classified as a form of sex discrimination and thus violated Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

http://www.eeoc.gov/federal/otherprotections.cfm

The EEOC enforces the prohibitions against employment discrimination in Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Equal Pay Act of 1963, the Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967, Sections 501 and 505 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, Titles I and V of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA), Title II of the Genetic Information Non-discrimination Act (GINA), and the Civil Rights Act of 1991. These laws prohibit discrimination based on race, color, sex, religion, national origin, age, disability, and genetic information, as well as reprisal for protected activity. The Commission's interpretations of these statutes apply to its adjudication and enforcement in federal sector as well as private sector and state and local government employment.

The EEOC has held that discrimination against an individual because that person is transgender (also known as gender identity discrimination) is discrimination because of sex and therefore is covered under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. See Macy v. Department of Justice, EEOC Appeal No. 0120120821 (April 20, 2012), http://www.eeoc.gov/decisions/0120120821%20Macy%20v%20DOJ%20.... The Commission has also found that claims by lesbian, gay, and bisexual individuals alleging sex-stereotyping state a sex discrimination claim under Title VII. See Veretto v. U.S. Postal Service, EEOC Appeal No. 0120110873 (July 1, 2011); Castello v. U.S. Postal Service, EEOC Request No. 0520110649 (Dec. 20, 2011), http://www.eeoc.gov/decisions/0520110649.txt.*

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by dandelany »

aestra wrote: post #119
varjag wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In Russia you cannot be fired from your job for being an LGBT individual This is entirely incorrect, you sure as hell can and good luck finding a judge overruling it. There are polygraph companies in Moscow that help out gays to employers, and they are completely open about it.

Too bad polygraphs are pseudoscience. http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/225/do-polygraph... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygraph

Too bad the kind of people who give polygraphs to root out and fire the gay people in their company don't give a shit about the science (or lack thereof) of polygraph tests.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by aestra »

sailfast wrote: post #117
beagle3 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But "at will" means you can be fired for any reason except if the reason is "being in a protected class". Those include pregnant women, for examples. It is so ridiculous it is funny. In the US, the law guarantees NO paid maternity leave, but you can't fire a pregnant lady. So, as soon as she gives birth, you can stop paying her (but not fire her), and then, two weeks after she comes back from maternity leave, you can…

It is true that the US does not guarantee maternity / paternity leave, however many companies do have it, and some are very generous. It's a great incentive to get good people on board. While I agree that a minimum is a good idea (though not sure how it would be legislated in practice) I also appreciate that the lack of labor regulation in the US results in a labor force and companies that are more responsive to chan…

>many companies do have it

The people who REALLY need it don't get it though, those working low income jobs who can't afford to save up for maternity leave.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by powertower »

ochekurishvili wrote: post #118
adobriyan wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember when Georgia attacked Southern Osetia night before China Olympics? Our western friends are more delicate this time.

And Russian reaction was correct right? Ignore boundaries of sovereign state (Georgia), annex its' territories outside of conflict zone (Gori, Georgia) and all in order to "defend their friends". Are you aware that Russia perfectly timed it's Kavkaz 2008 military training near the border of Georgian Region of South Osetia? Just several days earlier before conflict heated up. And what Russia does when conflict begins?…

If I recall the events correctly, the majority of the civilians that were in the conflict zones ran-to the Russian side - instead of the other way around.

That should tell you who the transgressors were that were attacking those same civilians.

Again, if I recall correctly, a good number of those civilians in the "conflict zones" had dual citizenship or at least a Russian passport.

So when Georgia started shelling them, Russia responded.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by hedgie13 »

tlogan wrote: post #64
znowi wrote: post #50

I yet to see a single positive report on the Sochi Olympics. If I was a conspiracy theorist, I might think there's a semi-hidden agenda to discredit the games.

I had a privilege and luck to travel and visit that part of Russia in late 90s. People are very nice (never refuse vodka if you are offered :)). But it is really poor place. There are open manhole in the middle of road - the big one, my friend would take out battery from the car bring it up with car keys, ... So it is not really "semi-hidden agenda" - it just that Sochi is not Moscow.

Late 90s was horrible and difficult time. Russia is not by any means warm, cozy and polished place now, but it changed enormously since 90s.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by jccalhoun »

NBC has a comment at the end of CNET's story about it: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57618533-83/sochi-hack-repo... " NBC, for its part, defended its report.

'The claims made on the blog are completely without merit,' according to a representative from NBC News."

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by pc86 »

impendia wrote: post #44
chimeracoder wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That analysis isn't entirely accurate either. For example: > Since 1993 gay sex was made legal in Russia, in 12 US States gay sex is a crime. The law is still on the books, but ever since Lawrence v. Texas [0], gay sex is legal in all 50 states (and all US territories). They're on the books simply because of inertia - there's no impetus to pass a new law repealing a law that's already been invalidated. Others include…

> there's no impetus to pass a new law repealing a law that's already been invalidated. Well... in 2000 (!), Alabama repealed its laws against interracial marriage, which had been invalidated in 1967 in Loving v. Virginia . http://www.salon.com/2001/03/08/sollors/

And the reason it took until 2000 was inertia. It was a completely symbolic repeal of a law nobody had enforced for some time. I’m not sure what your point here is.

EDIT: Grammar.

Re: NBC Story about Hacking at Sochi is 100% Fraudulent

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Post by notdonspaulding »

sdegutis wrote: post #40
jamesbritt wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is like a 60 Minutes report on "hacking" where a guy from Symantec ran Windows Task Manager for a credulous Leslie Stahl and postured about how all that activity could be viruses.

Reminds me of VB GUI IP tracking[1] and double keyboarding[2]. [1]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU [2]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ

Reminded me of NextGenHacker101's Tracer-T instructional video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmv8quf_xM

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