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Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by asadotzler »

munificent wrote: post #113
asadotzler wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3696/8994445994_c0939b83ca_o.p... I recommend you take another look. They're not really the same at all. Firefox's designers were not going for the angular and mechanical chrome look at all. They were designing something softer, rounder and more human.

> I recommend you take another look. Actually, I recommend you take another look. Chrome's tabs are significantly more rounded than in your illustration.

My illustration is based on the images in Chrome's retina mac image source files.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by asadotzler »

skroth wrote: post #93
Taylorious wrote: post #88

Why is Mozilla trying so hard to make Firefox exactly like Chrome? I have been using Firefox since like 1.5, if I wanted it to be like Chrome I would use Chrome.

Agreed. Not sure why they think it's necessary to move the menu to the right hand side (just like Chrome).

Have you tried using today's Firefox's menu on Windows 8? It's much better relocated out of the way of Windows 8's hot corners.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by asadotzler »

krelian wrote: post #118
asadotzler wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3696/8994445994_c0939b83ca_o.p... I recommend you take another look. They're not really the same at all. Firefox's designers were not going for the angular and mechanical chrome look at all. They were designing something softer, rounder and more human.

That's exactly the nitpicking I was referring to. If the corners are round or not makes little difference. The main thing here is the general outline of the tab and it's position in the window. If we can expand further we can also include the main menu which is in exactly the same spot with the same icon (maybe it's a standard icon, I've never seen it before Chrome and in earlier versions Chrome had, if I recall corr…

I think that once you've used the two side by side, you'll change your tune. Australis is actually a much larger departure from looking like Chrome in the tab strip. Seriously, use it for a couple of weeks, then open the two side by side in the middle of a browsing session and it'll be clear to you that the visual experience is not at all alike in practice.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by lelandbatey »

krelian wrote: post #118
asadotzler wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3696/8994445994_c0939b83ca_o.p... I recommend you take another look. They're not really the same at all. Firefox's designers were not going for the angular and mechanical chrome look at all. They were designing something softer, rounder and more human.

That's exactly the nitpicking I was referring to. If the corners are round or not makes little difference. The main thing here is the general outline of the tab and it's position in the window. If we can expand further we can also include the main menu which is in exactly the same spot with the same icon (maybe it's a standard icon, I've never seen it before Chrome and in earlier versions Chrome had, if I recall corr…

I don't know. I see the new tabs as an extension of the existing tabs [0]. All that's different is the curve flares are bigger. As someone who doesn't use Chrome much anymore, I thought these changes in Firefox seemed like natural extensions and refinements of existing designs.

Now, the elimination of the options bar ("File Edit View History ...") on Linux does seem more in line with Chrome, but on Windows it's been that way for a while.

I think this is a classic case of converging designs, not copying. A good idea is a good idea, no matter how you reach it.

[0] - http://i.imgur.com/m2ozMz3.png

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by chris_wot »

antsar wrote: post #41
ngpio wrote: post #36

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> 1) 1-word searches/domains or searches involving a domain-looking piece of text throw it off. With DuckDuckGo, it's easy to prepend/append "!ddg" onto the offending text to force a search. I sometimes have to do this for arithmetic operations, the first operand of which the bar interprets as an address. For me, the small amount of extra time this takes is worth it. A unified search/URL bar, particularly with DDG's…

!ddg is quite a few extra keystrokes though. Isn't it easier to just keep a shortcut key bound to that search? For example, I have 'g' bound for Google. The result: "blah blah" -> Google: blah blah "blahblah" -> attempts to find a host named blahblah "g blahblah" -> Google: blahblah

Depends whether you are a vi fan or not.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by espadrine »

kbrosnan wrote: post #43
kibwen wrote: post #12

Hooray! Been waiting for this for a long time. I'll be especially happy if Mozilla can manage to improve the default look of Firefox on Linux, where it's just absolutely dreadful (and where I'm usually forced to resort to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fxchrome/ to preserve my sanity).

Firefox UX branch on Linux (Gnome) http://i4.minus.com/i3HfXuN32bRDe.png

Firefox Nightly on Linux (KDE) http://i.imgur.com/OySdVCX.png.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by mikevm »

Watabou wrote: post #94
mikevm wrote: post #89

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Because Chrome is superior.

The look of it, certainly.

The look _and_ the performance. I used to be a die-hard Firefox fan. Then I moved to Opera because it was faster. Then I moved to Chrome because Opera was buggy.

I tried using Firefox again a while ago and I went right back to Chrome. Overall, Firefox feels more sluggish than Chrome. In part, whenever pages are loading in Firefox, it seems to make the whole browser feel sluggish -- something which doesn't happen in Chrome.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by Dylan16807 »

ahoge wrote: post #68

Looks pretty wasteful. I prefer how it currently looks on my machine: http://i.imgur.com/PvlTZ3k.png My tabs can get as small as the pinned ones on the left (which is the default behavior of every other browser). There used to be a about:config setting for minimum tab width, but one(!) Firefox developer decided to remove it, because: "Users can override this using userChrome.css if they absolutely want it. I don't th…

Well, I have tiny tabs and I just updated. The active tab obscures the favicons of the ones next to it, and the lines between tabs are in the wrong spot. But it works.
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