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Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Nov 18, 2013, 8:06 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #46

mixmastamyk wrote: post #39

Do not want. I'm happy with the tabs provided with my OS theme and do not want each app to have tabs with a custom shape and wasted space. Do not want a rainbow in my title bar and have not met anyone > 12 that does. What is it with these people and their obsession with skinz! and constant rearranging of buttons?

Do not want a rainbow in my title bar and have not met anyone > 12 that does. You do realise that's an add-on skin, right? The entire point of that system is that people can do whatever the hell they like and you aren't affected by it.

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Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by krelian » Mon, Nov 18, 2013, 8:12 PM UTC

So nitpickers might point out differences but you cannot deny that the basic tab looks just like Chrome's. When Chrome came out with this it was new and innovative. Now it looks like a copy.

When this blatant copying happens (and it happens in many places; it's no wonder all phones look like a variation of the original iphone) I always wonder if the designers really did convince themselves that their design is different or they tried but just couldn't come up with anything better than their inspiration.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by skroth » Mon, Nov 18, 2013, 8:13 PM UTC

Taylorious wrote: post #88

Why is Mozilla trying so hard to make Firefox exactly like Chrome? I have been using Firefox since like 1.5, if I wanted it to be like Chrome I would use Chrome.

Agreed. Not sure why they think it's necessary to move the menu to the right hand side (just like Chrome).

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by Watabou » Mon, Nov 18, 2013, 8:15 PM UTC

mikevm wrote: post #89

Taylorious wrote: post #88

Why is Mozilla trying so hard to make Firefox exactly like Chrome? I have been using Firefox since like 1.5, if I wanted it to be like Chrome I would use Chrome.

Because Chrome is superior.

The look of it, certainly.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by proex » Mon, Nov 18, 2013, 8:16 PM UTC

Taylorious wrote: post #88

Why is Mozilla trying so hard to make Firefox exactly like Chrome? I have been using Firefox since like 1.5, if I wanted it to be like Chrome I would use Chrome.

I think it's because afterall style matters, the chrome-ish UI is more appealing to most people in comparison to the old-classic firefox's.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by asadotzler » Mon, Nov 18, 2013, 8:18 PM UTC

icegreentea wrote: post #60

truhd wrote: post #50

Looks like Australis "borrows" a lot from Chrome UI. It has pinned tabs with an icon, chrome like tab shape, chrome like options (3 horizontal bar) icon, chrome like simple settings and even chrome like icons (incognito, bookmarks).

shrug . Firefox already had pinned tabs with an icon, and the icons for incognito/private and bookmarks aren't much different from the current ones either. I'll grant you the tab shape and the option icon.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3696/8994445994_c0939b83ca_o.p...

But I won't grant you the tab shape, unless you're the kid that couldn't figure out square pegs and round holes.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by davb » Mon, Nov 18, 2013, 8:20 PM UTC

I much prefer how it looks for me currently (Firefox 26.0b5 on XFCE, Greybird/Numix styles): http://i.imgur.com/XXzCFQZ.png

It seems like change for the sake of making things "glossier". That inactive tabs have no top border bothers me. As does the fact it seems to completely ignore my native window toolkit tab/widget styles.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by sanyi » Mon, Nov 18, 2013, 8:21 PM UTC

Dagger2 wrote: post #85

sanyi wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is the big one then?

The removal of most UI customization.

I really wish browsers were like emacs and that one could replace the whole UI on a dull rainy day.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by asadotzler » Mon, Nov 18, 2013, 8:23 PM UTC

krelian wrote: post #92

So nitpickers might point out differences but you cannot deny that the basic tab looks just like Chrome's. When Chrome came out with this it was new and innovative. Now it looks like a copy. When this blatant copying happens (and it happens in many places; it's no wonder all phones look like a variation of the original iphone) I always wonder if the designers really did convince themselves that their design is differ…

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3696/8994445994_c0939b83ca_o.p...

I recommend you take another look. They're not really the same at all.

Firefox's designers were not going for the angular and mechanical chrome look at all. They were designing something softer, rounder and more human.

Re: Australis is landing in Firefox Nightly

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Post by megablast » Mon, Nov 18, 2013, 8:28 PM UTC

krelian wrote: post #92

So nitpickers might point out differences but you cannot deny that the basic tab looks just like Chrome's. When Chrome came out with this it was new and innovative. Now it looks like a copy. When this blatant copying happens (and it happens in many places; it's no wonder all phones look like a variation of the original iphone) I always wonder if the designers really did convince themselves that their design is differ…

> it's no wonder all phones look like a variation of the original iphone

There is only so many way you can make a phone that consists of a big screen with a few buttons along the bottom look. Since the big screen is the main feature, and big screens look like big screens, this is a limit of the function of the phone.