'Titstare' app at TechCrunch: women in tech deserve better

Post by sambeau » Mon, Sep 09, 2013, 1:50 PM UTC

cliveowen wrote: post #71

sambeau wrote: post #48

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Feminism is about the equality of opportunity and power . You cannot create a picture of equal sexism by demonstrating a low-power, low-economic status, low opportunity-of-career-advancement role (that has traditionally been a female-only occupation due in-part to traditional gender-specific roles around child-rearing) where men who choose to enter it are viewed with scepticism. Especially if that role includes close…

Do you realize that preventing someone from getting a job because "has traditionally been a female-only occupation due in-part to traditional gender-specific roles around child-rearing" and that "men who choose to enter it are viewed with scepticism" is the very definition of sexism? Sexism isn't about the industry or about career advancement is about discrimination against a gender for a given category of jobs.

Post by SideburnsOfDoom » Mon, Sep 09, 2013, 1:51 PM UTC

WayneDB wrote: post #118

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #115

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Nowhere did I say that I "know what the whole group of Women is thinking". It's a bit ironic that you precede that with "Women find tit jokes funny" which could be interpreted as you saying that you in fact do know. But I do know for a fact that some women, in fact some people do not find them funny. Which is what I did say.

So then what's your point? Don't joke about anything that anybody could possibly get offended at?

Post by SideburnsOfDoom » Mon, Sep 09, 2013, 1:54 PM UTC

WayneDB wrote: post #121

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #120

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> Did I indicate anywhere that some people don't have the opposite, poorly formed opinion? I think that we can agree that there are poorly formed opinions on display here. > I say offend them even more until THEY accept that not everyone agrees with them. Someone's throwing their toys around today.

But can you agree that these people complaining about tit jokes are not accepting many other people's opinion that tit jokes are funny and that people should be free to joke about them if they wish? > Someone's throwing their toys around today? How so? By pointing out your illogical stance?

Post by sambeau » Mon, Sep 09, 2013, 1:57 PM UTC

qwerty500 wrote: post #57

sambeau wrote: post #48

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Feminism is about the equality of opportunity and power . You cannot create a picture of equal sexism by demonstrating a low-power, low-economic status, low opportunity-of-career-advancement role (that has traditionally been a female-only occupation due in-part to traditional gender-specific roles around child-rearing) where men who choose to enter it are viewed with scepticism. Especially if that role includes close…

"Sexism is a female only problem and will continue to be as long as men hold most of the power and are afforded most of the best opportunities." Can you name one company who wouldn't take a more competent female developer over a male developer?

Post by SideburnsOfDoom » Mon, Sep 09, 2013, 1:59 PM UTC

WayneDB wrote: post #127

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #124

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That would be ideal, yes. But you could start with avoiding predictable offence to large percentage of people .

Please prove to me that the majority of women or even a large portion are offended. Nobody has done that yet. Furthermore, even if you could prove that - percentage has nothing to do with it. That is a completely arbitrary qualifier. Offending people is a birth given right. Get over it.