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Re: iOS 7

#121

Post by therandomguy » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 7:21 PM UTC

That first image says it all for me. We are on a iOS 6 contact page and I want to facetime. There is a button right there. I know I can click on it and what exactly it will do. The contrast on the text is right and my brain is scanning for a section/button to latch on to. It finds it. Okay, change of mind. I don't want to facetime but rather send a message. Brain scanning for "message" button starts and finds it in a fraction of a second (not just visual but the expectation that a related feature will have have a similar way to be invoked).

Now iOS7. Scanned for facetime. They don't have it on the contact sheet. Wait... they do. For some reason I didn't register that at all on the first glance. Now message. They definitely don't have it: home, mobile, facetime, iCloud and work. That's it. Wait.. that cannot be right. Re-scan slowly. I see a speech bubble next to mobile phone number. Maybe that is it. I hope it is clickable. Doesn't look like a button.

Re: iOS 7

#122

Post by Flying_Dwarf » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 7:24 PM UTC

daughart wrote: post #64

kraemate wrote: post #24

I cant believe how quickly UI and design have fallen now that Jobs is gone. Things like childish gradients and terrible icons. Don't even get me started on the contrast -- light text on fluorescent green background and the really thin font. I could only draw one conclusion from the comparison of iOS 6 vs 7 --- it's as if Apple has done everything possible to make it unusable. Steve would probably have fired the taste…

People on here are nuts. How are the new gradients any different than the old gradients?! Any more "childish"?! (Look at the Messages app for example.) Is there any consistency between the old Voice Memos, Apple Store, Videos, iTunes, and Stocks apps? Do these icons really strike you as fundamentally better than the new ones?

> People on here are nuts.

Funny, I think people who LIKE this design are nuts. People are nuts indeed!

> How are the new gradients any different than the old gradients?!

OMG?!?111 Well, it's not that the gradients are different, it's that the colors are bright and vivid and each icon has little distinction from the next. Oh, and it looks like something my 6-year-old nephew would draw with his colored pencil set.

Re: iOS 7

#123

Post by Yhippa » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 7:24 PM UTC

jonahx wrote: post #72

toyg wrote: post #61

I don't care about flatness or skeutransmogrification or whatnot, but the damn thing must WORK. Look at his iMessage screen comparison [1]: yes, the old screen looks a bit geocities, but you can actually read text very well; the new screen is almost unreadable. The prime aim of iMessage is to make people read text, not to look cool. It doesn't matter if there are options to thicken the font -- the whole point of OSX/…

+1, the old screen seems much more usable to me as well

I wonder what the use case was for fading the chat bubble color as you go later in time? I haven't seen iOS 7 in action yet but I wonder what happens when you scroll up: how do the colors change?

At a glance the earlier messages I would have sent look harder to read.

Re: iOS 7

#124

Post by jcc80 » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 7:24 PM UTC

ryanstout wrote: post #5

Hopefully I'm not the only one that thinks this is going to kill usability. The reason old people can figure their way around This article seems to sum up some of my other complaints fairly well: http://wolfslittlestore.be/tasteless/

Agreed - this design is very disappointing. I want to be able to glance at my phone and understand what I'm looking at as easily as possible. Another person in this thread mentioned waking up from sleep and looking at their phone - that's exactly it for me. I'm not getting AARP magazine yet (early 30s), just want using my phone to be easy.

Re: iOS 7

#125

Post by namank » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 7:27 PM UTC

This was inevitable.

What bothers me is the disconnect between the icons for Safari, Settings, and Compass. They don't mesh with each other.

Re: iOS 7

#126

Post by sp332 » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 7:27 PM UTC

Flying_Dwarf wrote: post #119

sp332 wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Off" means "prettier".

Prettier? "Off" means "Make my font look as ugly as Parse's logo".

You realize it's the same font slightly bolder, right? Are you sure you scaled the image 100% to compare them, and your browser didn't shrink the image down to fit in your window or something?

Re: iOS 7

#127

Post by epochwolf » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 7:32 PM UTC

rogerbraun wrote: post #57

bcks wrote: post #2

Why yes, I would like to enhance text legibility: http://i.imgur.com/5XhQsM9.png

This seems like a compromise. Someone knew that the standard text was somewhat hard to read, so he tried to change the standard setting, but someone with more power wanted to keep it. So they implemented the larger size as an option.

It's not larger, it's bolder.

Re: iOS 7

#128

Post by bennyg » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 7:33 PM UTC

blocking_io wrote: post #98

rdouble wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "dribble crowd" isn't going to like the new iOS because it's going to make their role in app development mostly obsolete. Developing apps is going to require much more programatic design, instead of chopping up photoshop comps.

The new visual language means design is more important. You can't hide bad design with gloss and shadows. This is obviously bad for the Dribble crowd who often seem to favour style over substance, making the common mistake that design is about making something look good.

This trope is annoying too.

Design is how it works and functions, yes. But visual design is a major facet of that too. A large part of app design is the visual aesthetics. It's what helps make people download your app. It's most of what keeps them coming back for more. It matters too.

Re: iOS 7

#129

Post by Yhippa » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 7:34 PM UTC

EGreg wrote: post #45

I am usually a fan of Jony Ive's design, but this seems to exhibit a lot of windows-envy. When did Apple start copying design from Microsoft? The home-screen icons are probably the worst part of the design. There are certainly good parts as well. But Apple's skeumorphic borders and backgrounds were always distinctively Apple, and contributed to make people love the brand, now the iOS just looks like everything else.…

Cupertino, start your photocopiers!

Re: iOS 7

#130

Post by bennyg » Wed, Jun 12, 2013, 7:34 PM UTC

Yhippa wrote: post #123

jonahx wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1, the old screen seems much more usable to me as well

I wonder what the use case was for fading the chat bubble color as you go later in time? I haven't seen iOS 7 in action yet but I wonder what happens when you scroll up: how do the colors change? At a glance the earlier messages I would have sent look harder to read.

As the messages move closer to the bottom of the screen they become more opaque. So as you scroll, the things that preside close to the bottom of the actual device, that are on screen at that moment, will be totally opaque.