Is this an article about CSS-Tricks or a hit piece on DHH? Hard to tell.
It's both. Fuck DHH.
CSS-Tricks in Limbo
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#122I am concerned that what will happen to detailed technical write ups that defined much of the "technical internet space"? There used to be "CodeProject" (still is around probably) that used to have great articles on C, Windows Programming, Windows System programming and what not. Similar other sources on Web as well such as some TutPlus network. Now with LLMs, they won't gain attention and all knowledge would be stuc…
> Now with LLMs, they won't gain attention and all knowledge would be stuck in LLMs but there would be no knowledge base to train the LLMs on so...
It's even worse, the internet is getting filled with AI generated slop. All that knowledge stuck in LLMs gets regurgitated out with random errors scattered into it. A few cycles of AI having to scrape and ingest its own slop and it's going to get very ugly.
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#123Tbh I can't see how any site about tooling doesn't go the way of Stack Overflow. I used to follow the latest framework and CSS articles avidly. With agents it's a moot point. It's sad. But rather than fight it, we should be thinking about what communities we form next, in a world where knowing flexbox tricks isn't a flex.
That's because those AI's were trained on existing "CSS tricks." If people stop writing new CSS tricks, they will never make it into any dataset, and it won't matter if the AI can search the internet or not, because they won't be posted on the internet either. Essentially, mass scraping has a chilling effect.
Oddly enough if the scraping is good, AI can find the CSS tricks in the wild. Not as applicable with other technologies but scrapable web is readable for AI much like how some of us old people learned html/css by looking at source of quality websites.
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#124Complaining that they give money to people you don't like is not a good look when you want them to give money to people you do like.
Because being friendly works doesn't work. Open source maintainers have been screaming about funding for years. One dude comes along, adds some scripts on top of all the work of those maintainers, and gets millions in funding? You can't expect people to be nice then. It's completely messed up.
"One dude" that has been one of the lead and most well known contributors to open source for decades now.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am not going to waste my time watching videos about UFO nuts to try to gain insight into why what DHH said about London is somehow a result of him being deceived and not his own fully formed opinions that he affirmed by deliberately writing them in his blog. He is a grown man. Be serious.
All you are telling me is that you are going to be wilfully ignorant. That is intellectually dishonest. Constantly reiterating that he can't have been deceived when I've told you how it happens to people and there are similar examples elsewhere is being an ignoramus.
Is he, or is he not, fully responsible for the words in his blog that he wrote a year ago and has not amended or corrected despite very clear corrections of his misstatements of fact? (This is not even the only article where he has done that)
I don’t really give a crap if he was deceived, or how much pushback he gets, or whether he feels trapped by his own actions. He’s a big boy, he wrote what he wrote.
What he wrote is xenophobic pseudo intellectual nonsense tinged with white nationalist tropes, in support of a crook and a thug, and he is a fully grown man who is responsible for his own words on a commercial blogging platform he runs. He has access to all the same sources of information anyone else has.
You can call me names all you like but I think it’s kind of weird that you would go to bat for him like this.
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#126Tbh I can't see how any site about tooling doesn't go the way of Stack Overflow. I used to follow the latest framework and CSS articles avidly. With agents it's a moot point. It's sad. But rather than fight it, we should be thinking about what communities we form next, in a world where knowing flexbox tricks isn't a flex.
https://janetdocs.org/ is growing pretty fast, but that's because the community's forging an anti-AI niche of fun hobby coding.
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#127Getting linux to work flawlessly on M Macs is "just a bunch of scripts"? Wow. Since when tech folks judge the open-source projects so harsh and so much just after they only started?
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
All you are telling me is that you are going to be wilfully ignorant. That is intellectually dishonest. Constantly reiterating that he can't have been deceived when I've told you how it happens to people and there are similar examples elsewhere is being an ignoramus.
Is he, or is he not, fully responsible for the words in his blog that he wrote a year ago and has not amended or corrected despite very clear corrections of his misstatements of fact? (This is not even the only article where he has done that) I don’t really give a crap if he was deceived, or how much pushback he gets, or whether he feels trapped by his own actions. He’s a big boy, he wrote what he wrote. What he wrot…
What I find strange is that you said specifically that he couldn't have been deceived and then described Tommy Robinson as a crook. Your internal logic isn't consistent.
What I am trying to explain to you is that this may not be because he is some sort of unrepentant racist. It happens because it is partly a reaction to people like you who are preachy and moralistic and due to him listening to the wrong people after his worldview is rocked.
DHH probably sees the information you are referring to as being manipulated because he has been deceived. He literally doesn't believe that, so arguing from that starting point is completely pointless.
I've fallen down the political/conspiracy rabbit hole myself. I've seen it happen to other people. So I can empathise with someone else doing the same. Just because he has money doesn't mean he is immune to this.
The fact that you are unwilling to even bother entertaining any explanations is a moral failing on your part.
> You can call me names all you like but I think it’s kind of weird that you would go to bat for him like this.
You were unwilling to bother doing some basic investigation. This is quite frankly unacceptable tbh, especially after you expressed such strong views. That is being wilfully ignorant.
Also, there is nothing weird about what I am saying at all. I suspect, like others have done to me, you just want to call me a secret fascist simply because I don't want to condemn someone because they have expressed an unpopular viewpoint.
I am also fed up of this being brought up every time the project is mentioned. I am not the only one that is fed up of this sort of stuff. Recently I had two friends fall out recently over the Russo-Ukraine war. One of them simply said, "Look, dude, I don't care, I am bored of hearing it." The other lost the plot. I've also said this to some people I know someone on the right when they start going on about woke shite and leave our convo group after we said "I don't care about this stuff".
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#129Complaining that they give money to people you don't like is not a good look when you want them to give money to people you do like.
In this case you can judge for yourself if it's an overreaction. https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a
Wow. You can make your own conclusions, but my money is not exactly going to flow into DigitalOcean's pocket in the near future.
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#130I would have been okay with this state of affairs if the Omarchy guy had good politics. But he has the bad politics so I’m outraged.
It’s really interesting tbf how you felt like defending a racist piece of shit by publicizing you view the world with less complexity than a toddler