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Post by balherian »

weregiraffe wrote: post #114
euleriancon wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Help me understand this viewpoint that AGI being possible in the near-ish future is a myth, I see it repeated quite a lot. I've been in NLP since the LSTM days and it's hard for me to look at LLMs and not just think they are incredible. It's truly a different level of expressiveness. So much of capabilities research is pointing to LLMs effectively learning a world model. RLVR is also proving really effective. It is h…

If AGI is near, why Tesla still doesn't have real FSD?

ergo propter hoc?

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Post by joe_mamba »

torben-friis wrote: post #110
joe_mamba wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Did you look at the charts in the article? I don't care about someone else's charts, i care about my own lived experiences. Benchmarks can be gamed to get to the top of charts. When I pay for a service I care about how it performs in my test cases, not about which tops some random charts. Read my comment again please. I think I was pretty clear with detailed examples on where Gemini sucks and where it's good at. >no…

If you don't care about someone else's charts, why do you expect others to care about your comment?

>If you don't care about someone else's charts

Bruh, do you know what a personal opinion is? You don't need to care about it, and I never said I don't care about other people's opinions, I just said that chart which is based on non peer reviewed information, doesn't match my experience so without further peer reviewed proof to back it up, I don't care about it as my expire shows otherwise.

Would you believe any graph that tells you the sky is brown when you go outside and see that it isn't?

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

kingkongjaffa wrote: post #113

Between this and Shazeer you guys are idolizing individuals in an unhealthy way IMO. Why are we keeping tabs on researchers moving around? You're talking about them like people talk about the NFL trading players or (football) soccer teams making recordbreaking player transfers. someone further down wrote > Anthropic legit builds one the strongest if not the strongest IC team in the history of computational technology…

KRAZAM made a skit about this. You would like it.

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Post by banana_sandwich »

kingkongjaffa wrote: post #113

Between this and Shazeer you guys are idolizing individuals in an unhealthy way IMO. Why are we keeping tabs on researchers moving around? You're talking about them like people talk about the NFL trading players or (football) soccer teams making recordbreaking player transfers. someone further down wrote > Anthropic legit builds one the strongest if not the strongest IC team in the history of computational technology…

why is it unhealthy?

Re: John Jumper to join Anthropic

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

I did not "know" John personally, but we attended the same undergraduate program, concurrently. My workstudy job was supporting engineering/hardware for his specific school/program.

Nothing but nice things were ever heard about him. In a school of egos, his was approachably humble [†]... reasoning and facts seemed to make him tick. My twin actually had classes with him (small school), but also didn't know him well... but knew he was a swell guy. None of his IT tickets were ever typical "rude rich Vandy kid" – he could solve/delegate most his own problems.

So glad to see Vanderbilt secure yet another humble Laureate (Muhammud Yunis won his Nobel while we all were attending, I believe the previous alumnus-so).

Keep it humble, fellow knowledge-seeker Human John. Howdy from KissamKissam.

[†] most Obviously Brilliant-types "come off" as I_went_to_Harvard arrogant; not John ("awe" of his obvious brilliance?)

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Post by DontchaKnowit »

kranke155 wrote: post #7
CuriouslyC wrote: post #6

Something spicy must have happened internally at Google. This rapid fire high level attrition isn't just down to the bureaucratic quagmire.

Is it possible they are just falling behind ? Their newest model wasn’t really SOTA. And honestly fable 5 was the most human like model I’d ever tried. It was an incredible jump. And recently lots of Claude users at r/ClaudeAI are noticing Opus 4.8 has really increased in capability. Not new things but maybe redirected compute. It just feels like one of the best models ever, maybe because the compute that was previou…

I reallt think forum comments are heavily astrotrufed. Me and all my coworkers agree Opus performance has been horrible for the last to months or so.

I went from spending 20-60 dollars a day in api fees down to like 5 dollars a day cause I have had to limit my use to things I know it performs reliably on.

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Post by fsmv »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #101
HlessClaudesman wrote: post #99

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Google's AI is hamstrung by a culture of safetyisim, by that I mean going beyond what we can all recognise as safe limits to protect the user from imaginary ephemeral things like cultural harms. So maximal safety at all costs is in itself a cost. They can spend billions on AI but that spend is down the toilet if the user bounces because the AI's persona is a relentless politically correct scold.

People forgot, but Google had their own internal version of ChatGPT before OpenAI. But they never even intended to launch it. If OpenAI hadn't just thrown the technology out there for everyone to see, Google would probably still be sitting on it. Google does tons of original stuff, but they haven't released any original product in more than a decade. All they do now is play catch-up once they see people actually like…

There's also the major problem of people expecting Google to be right when it tells them something but OpenAI had no starting reputation so it was okay to say "be aware it might be wrong sometimes"
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