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Post by cubefox »

xnorswap wrote: post #48
cubefox wrote: post #43

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Related story: I recently watched a new video by a well-known YouTuber whom I was subscribed to for years. Something was off with the video: the script sounded like LLM slop. It sounded as if the author provided some bullet points on the main content of the script, and then let the LLM "expand" on it, with its typical, overly verbose, mode-collapsed LLM style. Then the YouTuber seems to have added some light edits to…

I had something similar happen where someone linked a blog article, I thought it sounded like slop, especially since they were posting 2-3 articles a day, but I wasn't sure so I checked their back catalogue. I then saw they've always written like that, and always posted 2-3 articles a day, so I figured they're prolific and LLMs copied their style. Then I read their first post again, and realised I should check the wa…

So he is rewriting the past without any visible indicator that he did so, and with the original publication date. That's deceptive and borders on unethical.

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Post by NetMageSCW »

bilekas wrote: post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

You can easily set OneDrive to keep a local copy of all files.

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Post by Double_a_92 »

hparadiz wrote: post #92
Double_a_92 wrote: post #59

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I'm also unsure what they wanted Microsoft to do. Just store data that apparently doesn't belong to anyone anymore forever?

OneDrive turns itself on after an update so what you think is local data can easily become cloud data. Then while you're not paying attention to a long running system they quietly delete it. Then folks like you come out of the woodwork to defend them. It's hilarious.

Then the actual issue is that OneDrive syncs deactivated (empty) accounts to your system, deleting the offline files as well..?

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Post by hparadiz »

quietbritishjim wrote: post #110
hparadiz wrote: post #92

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OneDrive turns itself on after an update so what you think is local data can easily become cloud data. Then while you're not paying attention to a long running system they quietly delete it. Then folks like you come out of the woodwork to defend them. It's hilarious.

What system would still be storing this locally long after the user has left the company? The second half of your comment is bordering on a personal attack and not very helpful.

You are the example I was pointing out. At no point did I say anything about a company account. This happens on all windows machines. You can for example login to a machine acting as a server simply to use the Microsoft store to install something only to have it start syncing your files to that machine or even intermingle them and then force you to go through a tedious clean up process.

I have seen grandparents accidently lose all their files because they didn't know their files were being synced and then when they removed the Microsoft account from their machine suddenly their files are missing. Situations where they were told by support to logout / login only to lose all their data. These people take weeks or months to finally get someone's attention about the problem irl and these are precisely the types of people who will now be losing data because of the cavalier attitude from the so called experts.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by hparadiz »

Double_a_92 wrote: post #124
hparadiz wrote: post #92

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OneDrive turns itself on after an update so what you think is local data can easily become cloud data. Then while you're not paying attention to a long running system they quietly delete it. Then folks like you come out of the woodwork to defend them. It's hilarious.

Then the actual issue is that OneDrive syncs deactivated (empty) accounts to your system, deleting the offline files as well..?

I've seen all sorts of situations. The problem is that after updates OneDrive tends to turn itself on or enable syncing when it was previously disabled without telling you. Or you use a Microsoft account to install something through their store and bam suddenly the local drive is intermingled with yours. It's a mess precisely because it's built in.

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Post by bayindirh »

rcxdude wrote: post #87
al_borland wrote: post #65

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I’ve seen a lot of people have issues with git, because this is going on in the background and they don’t realize it. They’ll change branches, then OneDrive sees files are missing, so it starts pulling them back down. It makes a mess. Any new hire we get, we need to make sure to explicitly tell them not to keep their code in a folder managed by OneDrive, but they never listen. They speak up about a month later, compl…

It is irritating how Microsoft markets onedrive as a backup solution, because then people think 'oh, we have onedrive, why do we need another backup solution?', when onedrive is so unsuited to being the working copy of so many different kinds of data.

The problem is, even though one knows that OneDrive is not a viable backup solution, Microsoft crippled its own "Windows Backup" feature and buried under the rock.

Now I have to pay another company to be able to have a proper backup solution. Why trash your own competent solution for monies and data extraction? It's not a wise move.

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Post by hparadiz »

Scroll_Swe wrote: post #50
bilekas wrote: post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

And as someone who worked and still works in IT support, users will not save to network drives, their machine will crash and files will be lost. YES, you can do GPO redirect desktop etc to network drive but needs a VPN and sync is also slow. OneDrive has solved this, like it or not. >So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access files that are in my documents folder, pictu…

That's why Dropbox exists. Superior in every way.

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Post by rescbr »

f4stjack wrote: post #89
cinntaile wrote: post #79

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You can change that setting in Windows so that it no longer has a 255 character limit.

Yes, you can but then if you have any older software in your system (for company reasons) will not play ball. And it is a workaround, not a permanent solution. Because we still do not have that fabled WinFS so...

Eh, NTFS supported long paths since forever, the problem is with applications using Win32 APIs that are limited to MAX_PATH (260 characters) path length.

There won't be a permanent solution unless all Windows applications start using NT path formatting - which won't happen.

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