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South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by dfxm12 »

rwmj wrote: post #58
bblb wrote: post #49

How about not believing everything that's posted to the Internet. This could've easily been done with Photoshop in the pre AI era.

"easily" is doing some heavy lifting there. Is Photoshopping this image together really easier than prompting an AI?

"Easily in the pre-AI era" is different from "easier" & "easier" wasn't the claim.

To answer your question, relative ease is a function, in part, of one's skills & resources, so, it's certainly a reasonable claim to make, but will be different person to person.

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by travisjungroth »

latexr wrote: post #67
bblb wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Background image of some local street. Image of a wolf and object selection tool (pre AI era version). Touch up a little and add some filters to drop the quality. Sure a little bit more involved than the two second AI prompt, but 3 min job for the lulz photoshoppers.

No, it’s not “a little bit more involved”, it’s significantly more involved because it also requires the skills to even know what you’re talking about, the experience of having done it before to be convincing, the inclination to spend the time on it, downloading Photoshop itself, possibly cracking it… There are a lot of steps, most of which most people haven’t done and don’t know how. With generative AI, you just ope…

Or like $5. This is the kind of thing it was very easy to hire people for. Dropping the price to near zero exploded the usage, though.

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by shantnutiwari »

He wasn't arrested because he posted an AI photo. He was arrested because he was wasting police time during a genuine problem of the police hunting for a escaped wolf.

He would have been arrested even if the image wasnt AI.

The title and article are very...tabloid-y

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by [deleted] »

sebastiennight wrote: post #107
croes wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But this isn't a false alert. The alert is real, people just got misdirected.

Think of it like this: if this same story was happening a couple of centuries ago, pre-Internet, this person who just got arrested would have been sitting at their balcony, crying "the wolf is here! down at the intersection!" ; causing the hunting team to waste time.

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Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by cozzyd »

filleduchaos wrote: post #101
latexr wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s not “a little bit more involved”, it’s significantly more involved because it also requires the skills to even know what you’re talking about, the experience of having done it before to be convincing, the inclination to spend the time on it, downloading Photoshop itself, possibly cracking it… There are a lot of steps, most of which most people haven’t done and don’t know how. With generative AI, you just ope…

This argument has always seemed a bit silly to me. It's like responding to someone saying that it's easy to set up a hello world web server without AI with "but but but first you need to know what a web server is and how to use the command line and download a compiler/runtime and and and", as if there were some dire shortage of people who are already programmers . There are literally millions of us, the existence of…

yes but could your $RELATIVE set up a hello world web server without AI?

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by rubslopes »

thebruce87m wrote: post #120
kqp wrote: post #30

It sounds like he didn’t actually file a false police report. They don’t even say they asked him whether it’s true. It seems the police just read a post by a random person on the internet, assumed it’s true, then arrested him when it wasn’t. The article is devastatingly light on info, though, so I can’t be sure.

> It seems the police just read a post by a random person on the internet, assumed it’s true If it was true and police saw it but didn’t act, the fallout for them could be much worse depending on the outcome.

If this was true, they should have contacted the user nevertheless.

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by latexr »

filleduchaos wrote: post #101
latexr wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s not “a little bit more involved”, it’s significantly more involved because it also requires the skills to even know what you’re talking about, the experience of having done it before to be convincing, the inclination to spend the time on it, downloading Photoshop itself, possibly cracking it… There are a lot of steps, most of which most people haven’t done and don’t know how. With generative AI, you just ope…

This argument has always seemed a bit silly to me. It's like responding to someone saying that it's easy to set up a hello world web server without AI with "but but but first you need to know what a web server is and how to use the command line and download a compiler/runtime and and and", as if there were some dire shortage of people who are already programmers . There are literally millions of us, the existence of…

> There are literally millions of us

And there are literally billions of everyone else.

Do you not see that the amount of fake images has exploded with free access and ease of use? That’s what a tool does. It’s silly to argue generative AI doesn‘t make a difference in the proliferation of fake images, just like it’d be arguing that digital photography on a small multi-purpose device that is always with you doesn’t make people take more pictures.

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by lukan »

shlant wrote: post #100
lukan wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, not really. There was a real wolf and the person dusturbed the operation. "South Korean police have arrested a man for sharing an AI-generated image that misled authorities who were searching for a wolf that had broken out of a zoo in Daejeon city. The 40-year-old unnamed man is accused of disrupting the search by creating and distributing a fake photo purporting to show Neukgu, the wolf, trotting down a road int…

what an incredibly dumb thread this is. OP pointed out something amusing and it's being ruined by completely useless pedantry

Well, I was a bit missled by the original comment, then I read the article, found the case to be a bit different than the tale and posted context. But giving the pedantry nature of HN, I should have probably been more clear in my wording to avoid the debate about meaning of words. Because yes, there is a resemblance to the fable, just not literally the same.

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by conductr »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #19

Title should be "Man arrested for deceptive and antisocial behavior". The only reason you are seeing this right now is because it has AI in the title.

It’s relevant in the sense that I would have never guessed this little prank would get someone arrested.

We need to learn/adapt what we post, see, believe in photos to avoid arrest. Especially so in the AI reality because generating these images, and these pranks, has become increasingly easy for anyone to do with no skills and minimal time.

I think the part I find most fascinating though is it’s not clear if he took this picture to the police, actively wasting their time, or if he just posted it and they found it and mistakenly took it as truth. I have no insight to SK laws but for me it’s going to be unfair if they were the ones that used this picture as evidence when if it was never meant to be taken seriously.

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by latexr »

travisjungroth wrote: post #122
latexr wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s not “a little bit more involved”, it’s significantly more involved because it also requires the skills to even know what you’re talking about, the experience of having done it before to be convincing, the inclination to spend the time on it, downloading Photoshop itself, possibly cracking it… There are a lot of steps, most of which most people haven’t done and don’t know how. With generative AI, you just ope…

Or like $5. This is the kind of thing it was very easy to hire people for. Dropping the price to near zero exploded the usage, though.

> This is the kind of thing it was very easy to hire people for.

But would you? People grumble about $0.99 for an app they’ll use everyday, I doubt paying even $5 (and waiting for a result!) for a fake image to mislead police is high on anyone’s list.

Making this image was likely fast and free. It’s a crime of opportunity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_of_opportunity

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