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South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by heliumtera »

croes wrote: post #25
sillysaurusx wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But there are real wolves when shepherding too. That’s why crying wolf has any power. To cry wolf is to say there’s a wolf here when it’s actually located elsewhere. The AI photo said there was a wolf at a certain intersection when it was actually located elsewhere. In fact crying wolf is doubly appropriate because it means disturbing an operation looking for a wolf.

Crying wolf is normally starting the operation while there isn‘t a wolf. This is misdirection while there is a wolf Similar but different

le reddit mentality

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by latexr »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #19

Title should be "Man arrested for deceptive and antisocial behavior". The only reason you are seeing this right now is because it has AI in the title.

The technology used is very much relevant, because the ease of access and easiness of production are likely to have been the biggest contributors. Had they had to open an image editor and spend a few hours to make something convincing, they would’ve been much less likely to do so, assuming this particular person even had the skills, and would have had multiple opportunities to change their mind.

It’s a crime of opportunity¹, one where you have the idea and act on it on a whim. No opportunity, no crime, and the technology provided the opportunity.

So yes, the technology used matters.

¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_of_opportunity

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by bblb »

rwmj wrote: post #58
bblb wrote: post #49

How about not believing everything that's posted to the Internet. This could've easily been done with Photoshop in the pre AI era.

"easily" is doing some heavy lifting there. Is Photoshopping this image together really easier than prompting an AI?

Background image of some local street. Image of a wolf and object selection tool (pre AI era version). Touch up a little and add some filters to drop the quality.

Sure a little bit more involved than the two second AI prompt, but 3 min job for the lulz photoshoppers.

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by Loughla »

tete wrote: post #60
maplethorpe wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the technology that enabled the deception noteworthy? Presumably this person wouldn't have been able to do this before AI. Hypothetically, if a hacking tool was released that let non-technical people hack into sensitive databases, and then a journalist wrote the headline "local man hacks IRS", without any mention of the tool, wouldn't that be a bit irresponsible, to purposely leave that information out?

> Presumably this person wouldn't have been able to do this before AI. Photoshop? I don't think you need much skill.

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Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by fredoralive »

sammy2255 wrote: post #53

What is the charge?

The article says:

“Authorities are investigating him for disrupting government work by deception, an offence that carries up to five years in prison or a maximum fine of 10 million Korean won ($6,700; £5,000)”

Somewhat harsher than the UK at least, where “wasting police time” would only get you six months or around a £2500 fine.

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by idbehold »

heddycrow wrote: post #59

It is, quite frankly, completely wrong that this man was arrested—if anything, by this line of reasoning, it should have been an artist instead—since AI, as we are told, merely makes copies of what hard-working human artists have already created and shared on the internet. AI is plagiarism—full stop—nothing more, nothing less. Of course, this point could have been made without sarcasm (and AI tells for parody)—I’m aw…

The amount of punctuation and terrible sentence structure make this nearly incomprehensible.

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by latexr »

bblb wrote: post #63
rwmj wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"easily" is doing some heavy lifting there. Is Photoshopping this image together really easier than prompting an AI?

Background image of some local street. Image of a wolf and object selection tool (pre AI era version). Touch up a little and add some filters to drop the quality. Sure a little bit more involved than the two second AI prompt, but 3 min job for the lulz photoshoppers.

No, it’s not “a little bit more involved”, it’s significantly more involved because it also requires the skills to even know what you’re talking about, the experience of having done it before to be convincing, the inclination to spend the time on it, downloading Photoshop itself, possibly cracking it… There are a lot of steps, most of which most people haven’t done and don’t know how. With generative AI, you just open a website and type a few words.

There are significantly more people able to type a few words into a prompt than people who can use an image editor fast and convincingly and would be inclined to waste their time on this kind of fake.

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by lukan »

PUSH_AX wrote: post #46
lukan wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, not really. There was a real wolf and the person dusturbed the operation. "South Korean police have arrested a man for sharing an AI-generated image that misled authorities who were searching for a wolf that had broken out of a zoo in Daejeon city. The 40-year-old unnamed man is accused of disrupting the search by creating and distributing a fake photo purporting to show Neukgu, the wolf, trotting down a road int…

> the person dusturbed the operation Did they? The article says it's unclear as to their intent. > Authorities did not specify if the man had intentionally sent the photo to authorities during their search or simply shared it online.

Intent or not, it did disturb as it misslead. And .. how can one imagine not disturb a search, when posting a wrong location?

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by heddycrow »

idbehold wrote: post #66
heddycrow wrote: post #59

It is, quite frankly, completely wrong that this man was arrested—if anything, by this line of reasoning, it should have been an artist instead—since AI, as we are told, merely makes copies of what hard-working human artists have already created and shared on the internet. AI is plagiarism—full stop—nothing more, nothing less. Of course, this point could have been made without sarcasm (and AI tells for parody)—I’m aw…

The amount of punctuation and terrible sentence structure make this nearly incomprehensible.

Yeh, I might have went overboard with the snark here. It seems even the line hinting that this was snarky was lost.

If it helps, imagine the text more as a work of art than an instruction manual. Art matters.

Re: South Korea police arrest man for posting AI photo of runaway wolf

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Post by conartist6 »

tete wrote: post #60
maplethorpe wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the technology that enabled the deception noteworthy? Presumably this person wouldn't have been able to do this before AI. Hypothetically, if a hacking tool was released that let non-technical people hack into sensitive databases, and then a journalist wrote the headline "local man hacks IRS", without any mention of the tool, wouldn't that be a bit irresponsible, to purposely leave that information out?

> Presumably this person wouldn't have been able to do this before AI. Photoshop? I don't think you need much skill.

To make a shooped image good enough to fool the police into think they're looking at a completely real picture, you'd think it would take a reasonable amount of skill. If nothing else you need an exact match picture in terms of lighting and perspective.
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