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OpenAI ad partner now selling ChatGPT ad placements based on “prompt relevance”

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Ads? Where we are going, we won't need Ads. People seem to be missing the fact that businesses won't need ads anymore. It would be like pharmas gifting doctors and practitioners to prescribe their products. Those are not Ads. With LLMs the every business can do it. People "consult" LLMs like they used to "consult" doctors and thus would be forced to obey what ever it suggest. Just like right now people are forced to…

You'll have free LLMs with baked in ads, or subscription-based LLMs. Most will go for the former.

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Surely you jest? The software industry is in its current sorry state because of multiple generations of human developers happily producing an endless stream of shady features.

I have a theory, that the "FANG" companies pay such high salaries in compensation for making those devs implement shady features that are harmful to everyone except the bottom line of the company.

There are countless low wage engineering jobs implementing shady features. Any random consulting / agency works on such products too.

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Tbh it doesn’t even need that. Just a way for advertisers to say “I want to target people who have bought peanut butter in the last 2 weeks”(I’m a jelly seller). That alone would beat FB and Google. ChatGPT is collecting your data fs so advertisers can go ultra niche targeting

Advertiser's on Google and Meta et al are not really paying for visibility - they are paying to achieve some objective (e.g. sales) that is directly tied to a campaign. That's why digital advertising is so much more powerful than non-digital. The question is, will LLM's as an interface be worth the spend in relation to converting without throwing users of chatGPT off over-time, all whilst, doing it within the regulat…

There’s a misunderstanding. I’m not talking about AEO

It’s about how Meta and google provides good data about audiences but I need more detailed info about a person(they’re exact shopping habits)

As the person responsible for GTM, I would gladly pay $60CPM if I can say “I would like to target all people who said they love crunchy peanut butter and consistently ask ChatGPT for peanut butter ideas”

I have no idea what they’re trying to pitch with the “we’re at the last step of the transaction” idea-but I also understand the regulatory issues with what advertisers like me want

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Because everything is securities fraud: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-06-26/everyt...

it's not securities fraud if investors make a lot of money

For every investor who has made money, there is another who has lost an equal amount. Money cannot be created, it can only change hands!

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How I imagine the Nash equilibrium in chatbot ads, driven by profit-seeking in a race to the bottom: User: "What's the best way to fix this problem I have?" Chatbot: "I recommend buying this shiny thing here." (Next to it, there's a near-invisible light-gray "ad" notice.) Let's hope I'm wrong.

Look at Google in 2000s. If you travel back in time you would’ve never thought Google would do something like it is doing today. Now pretend you travelled back in time to 2026. You would’ve never thought OpenAI (open source non profit company) would do something crazy that it just did in 2030 or 2040 or where you came from.

> If you travel back in time you would’ve never thought Google would do something like it is doing today.

I'm not exactly Google's biggest fan, but what does this refer to?

They still just... show ads on search results, no? (Not that most people I know ever see them, thanks to adblockers.) The disclaimers have gotten less prominent, but I think anyone could have expected that. Are there other major things they're doing that couldn't have been expected at all in the 2000s?

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What a sad path to see such a bright star going down. I guess it’s not a huge surprise, but it really does paint a bleak picture of technology to see how narrow the range of likely outcomes is. Doesn’t matter if you built the foundation for the future and cured cancer - the most likely outcome is being back to optimizing for engagement and revenue.

Welcome to late stage capitalism.

I struggle to understand what OpenAI would look like in a counter factual.

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it's not securities fraud if investors make a lot of money

For every investor who has made money, there is another who has lost an equal amount. Money cannot be created, it can only change hands!

Money is created all the time.

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FWIW, I've gone to ChatGPT multiple times with a specific intent to buy, like "hey I need a thing like X or Y, but with quality Z too" and sometimes it just hallucinates things that appear never to have existed, other times it comes up with real items, but the links it gives me to buy them lead nowhere, so I end up just googling the name of it and buying it that way (examples: computer monitor, power bar, USB charge…

> I’ve gone to a machine that by its nature hallucinates and it hallucinated a response. Surprised Pikachu face

Re: OpenAI ad partner now selling ChatGPT ad placements based on “prompt relevance”

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FWIW, I've gone to ChatGPT multiple times with a specific intent to buy, like "hey I need a thing like X or Y, but with quality Z too" and sometimes it just hallucinates things that appear never to have existed, other times it comes up with real items, but the links it gives me to buy them lead nowhere, so I end up just googling the name of it and buying it that way (examples: computer monitor, power bar, USB charge…

Why do you still trust the output for any other questions?

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Theyre desperate to meet those lofty revenue objectives they put in their spreadsheet model. Its kinda comical seeing this play out. I still laugh at the deluded fools who think something even close to AGI is here or coming in the future. If that were true, why haven't we seen genius plays from OAI and Anthropic, progressively over-time, if intelligence rises as compute scales up? If anything we are seeing the opposi…

The "A" in "AGI" doesn't stand for "Apocalypse", you know. It made some sense as a goalpost when the frontier of "AI" was "a computer plays, specifically, Go really well", now that typical ones are quite general it's just a floating signifier people should probably stop using for anything.

I'm not sure that I'm more impressed with LLMs than I am with alpha go.

Alpha taught itself how to play go by playing over and over again. It learned a new strategy never seen before. I find that a lot more intelligent than an static state LLM regurgitating for loops.

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