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Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Perhaps its time to put a VPN into all your CI jobs

You can't fight political issues with clever technical solutions

Yes you can. Fight with clever technical solutions and the politics will follow once the solution becomes common or displays its usefulness. It is in fact the most effective way to fight dumb political issues.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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> The football league would rather not have pirates livestream their ~90 minute games. Funny enough, I work in IT and I've had to use a VPN to be able to do my job when soccer is on, but my two non-tech-savy family members that do watch soccer using pirate livestreams say that they've never had any issues with blocked streams.

But you must realize, the alternative to this is that some very wealthy Spanish companies ... lose a small amount of money. Surely you understand now. Go about your business, poor person.

They don't even "lose a small amount of money." They simply gain less money than usual for a short period of time. Think of how rough that is for them.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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You can't fight political issues with clever technical solutions

Yes you can. Fight with clever technical solutions and the politics will follow once the solution becomes common or displays its usefulness. It is in fact the most effective way to fight dumb political issues.

In my country (Russia) the politics followed, now the ISPs block the OpenVPN and wireguard packets. And sometimes the white list mode is enabled, so you cannot connect, with your clever custom VPN solution, to a host outside the country

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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When talking about VPNs, it doesn't have to mean "third party VPN". You can host your own on any VPN service outside of Spain.

Yes, but that's not something many can do easily. Also already having to use a VPN is not the "right" solution. The right so solution is to beat some sense inside some politician's head, and force them to write and approve laws that don't let stupid (or conniving) judges pass orders like this one we are talking about.

It takes very light technical skills to deploy algo

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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This is incredibly naive.

What? This is how governance and public opinion happen, at least in Spain. Government does something bad? Everyone out on the streets to complain, and calling politicians to change their mind. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not, but doing nothing is never an option if you disagree with what they're doing. To think that doing nothing is better than something, that's incredibly naive.

Doing nothing can't be better, but it's entirely possible that doing nothing has exactly the equal effect as doing something.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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This is a know issue and it is completely fucked up: https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/cloudflar... What Spain does is basically censorship and it's very poorly executed. The docker image registry is only one out of the many collateral victims of this stupid law.

> What Spain does is basically censorship and it's very poorly executed Basically? It is censorship, with huge collateral damage and regardless of how much we complain or share evidence that the blocks are actually financially harming us, no one seems to care as long as La Liga gets to freely block whatever hoster of websites as they wish.

It's just like the Great Firewall of China, except in service of football profits instead of political ideology. I don't know which one is dumber and more disgraceful.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Heh, lucky you, at least you get a message. My ISP just drops traffic to the affected IPs. No ping, no traceroute, just a spinner in the browser until it says "page not found". Every response and comment from LaLiga, the football organization responsible for this, has been so far that this is a minor issue that only affects a few bunch of nerds who talk about "docker images" or "github repositories" or "whatever that…

> Heh, lucky you, at least you get a message. My ISP just drops traffic to the affected IPs. No ping, no traceroute, just a spinner in the browser until it says "page not found". This is generally how the GFW works in China. Instead of an overbearing nanny like a school or corporation's DNS blocker, you're left with a sense that you're on a version of the Internet that is just intermittently and somewhat mysteriously…

> a version of the Internet that is just intermittently and somewhat mysteriously broken.

That's actually just how the Internet is. Nothing to do with the great firewall.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Going to play devil's advocate here but I suspect if Cloudflare had been more cooperative about taking down illegal content, LaLiga would not have resorted to blanket blocking individual IPs.

I would really like to understand more about the process that they should follow but didn't / followed but didn't satisfy them / doesn't exist, in order to remove infringing websites quickly from CloudFlare.

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