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Say No to Palantir in Europe

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Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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When I saw "defund the policy" I recognised it as virtue signalling.

Same people that scoff at “Defund the Police” rejoice “Defund the Dept of Education” (and vice versa)

Question: do you agree police must be defunded?

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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> ICE separate[s] families" is such a ridiculous mischaracterization It's accurate. They do separate families. How or why doesn't matter, the fact stands in its own. It's not a "mischaracterization", it's a fact.

If context is irrelevant then every country in Europe already separates families, and thus how can this be a complaint?

Believe it or not, it's possible for more than one person or entity to do something. I know, it's really incredible to think about! John and Bill can both scam Elizabeth, even though they live in different countries!

But apparently I can't complain because they're both criminals and I can only complain about one! It says in the rulebook!

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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Ex-Colleagues are launching a startup right now: No US-Services from the beginning on, only OpenSource and this new EU-Office thingy. I think more companies will join the train? Esp new & smaller ones, for sure there is no option for bigCorp like ASML to be free of US-cloud, but maybe its gaining traction.

Surprised by this take. Building a startup is already insanely hard. So I wouldn’t like to add more challenge by spending time integrating with non-US services if they are not top just because of my political views. I feel a better answer is for Europe to build real, competitive alternatives to US services.

I love seeing companies set meritocracy aside for partisan political posturing.

All people who run companies should relish their competition behaving sub-optimally.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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"We" as a species with common interests like "not eradicating ourselves through violence."

I agree with you, but your adversary may not think in a sufficiently developed way. Which is why we had such destructive wars in the past..

Maybe we should leverage all of this supposedly world-changing AI to move on from primitive wars instead of using it to build more weapons. At a certain point, our species will be faced with a choice between maintaining the status quo (climate destruction, mass casualties through violent conflicts, food/water shortages, extinction-level events, etc) or working together to forge a sustainable path forward for the benefit of the species. An argument that this current world order is just how things are and there's nothing to be done but escalate is just a vote for the former.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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I agree with you, but your adversary may not think in a sufficiently developed way. Which is why we had such destructive wars in the past..

Maybe we should leverage all of this supposedly world-changing AI to move on from primitive wars instead of using it to build more weapons. At a certain point, our species will be faced with a choice between maintaining the status quo (climate destruction, mass casualties through violent conflicts, food/water shortages, extinction-level events, etc) or working together to forge a sustainable path forward for the bene…

I definitely don't think that the current world order is just how things are. That does not mean you should act now in terms of how the world order _would be in the future_.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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Same people that scoff at “Defund the Police” rejoice “Defund the Dept of Education” (and vice versa)

Question: do you agree police must be defunded?

I agree that in both cases there is an issue that needs to be solved (see NYPD budget as example) so don’t take “defund” at face value but more like “radical changes are needed”

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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when the bills come due you just print more money :)

Nope. Government borrows money from investors. including big ones. at some points the investors might come back with a different proposal. peasants can potentially do something about it as well.

google “quantitative easing (QE)”

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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Not before handing over an enormous cache of NHS patient data to them during the pandemic. If memory serves, this was not kept on NHS hardware or even NHS controlled compute.

If memory serves, this was not kept on NHS hardware or even NHS controlled compute. Does anyone have a verifiable source for that? It would be extremely controversial if true and even among the big civil liberties and privacy advocacy groups in the UK I have never seen anyone make that claim. The defence to using Palantir by British government departments and public services has typically been that Palantir only prov…

You said it better than I could have.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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If context is irrelevant then every country in Europe already separates families, and thus how can this be a complaint?

Believe it or not, it's possible for more than one person or entity to do something. I know, it's really incredible to think about! John and Bill can both scam Elizabeth, even though they live in different countries! But apparently I can't complain because they're both criminals and I can only complain about one! It says in the rulebook!

I'm not sure you've quite understood the conversation.

Re: Say No to Palantir in Europe

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Did Helsing get its name from the fictional vampire hunter family?

All of them are just as bad a Palantir.

No that's not true, some try to do it by the book ( ai act, gdpr, and follow German law etc) but they won't have any chance on the market, because those who ignore any law will provide more information / control etc for police, state etc etc
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