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Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

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Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

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Once I verify a home video product works as intended I remove its network connection and never connect it again. I then leave its static ip address configured and block any traffic from it on the off chance it’s ever connected again. The sole exception is my PlayStation 5. I use apps on it for all streaming.

You can also open up the back and remove the antenna connection.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

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I’ve read reports of these devices turning on wifi and auto connecting to known public wifi networks. Seems we went from a generation of technologists dismissing Stallman as paranoid to one living in his nightmare and not being appropriately familiar with his work, issues of art vs artist aside.

Business idea: a signal-jamming cover for your 65-inch TV. It looks like shit, is difficult to install, and costs an arm and a leg, but at least it prevents egregious privacy violations from your average chaebol or CCP-intervened corporation!

How would you look at the panel, then? Do you think it is impenetrable?

I'd doubt that any such coating would be good for viewing quality.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

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I drive a Cupra (a Spanish brand, a spinoff of SEAT, owned by Volkswagen) and when I was driving my car out of the dealership I had to tell the salesman I was not interested in signing up for the free app they were trying to foist me. He was dumbfounded. The model was selling like hotcakes yet I was the first customer that had outright refused to sign up for their shitty app. They pulled off the inevitable switcheroo…

Chances are the dealer and manufacturer can still get telemetry data through the cellular modem built into the car. You will need to remove it to be reasonably sure that data isn't extracted.

>Chances are the dealer and manufacturer can still get telemetry data through the cellular modem built into the car.

Exactly why I have a car without a cellular modem. They're getting quite rare, though, and I imagine will soon be impossible.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

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There is not a ton of competition in the OLED TV space

Who cares? Companies are using your need to have the latest and greatest against you. It's overt manipulation. I'd rather watch an old CRT or nothing at all than allow some company to forcefully show me ads.

> Companies are using your need to have the latest and greatest against you

This is a false dichotomy.

My love of cinema drives me to have certain features in my TV: 4k, OLED, HDR. My hatred of ads drives to me buy certain products to use my with TV: Apple TV.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

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I’ve read reports of these devices turning on wifi and auto connecting to known public wifi networks. Seems we went from a generation of technologists dismissing Stallman as paranoid to one living in his nightmare and not being appropriately familiar with his work, issues of art vs artist aside.

Business idea: a signal-jamming cover for your 65-inch TV. It looks like shit, is difficult to install, and costs an arm and a leg, but at least it prevents egregious privacy violations from your average chaebol or CCP-intervened corporation!

Why not just change your wifi password so that the TV can't connect again (after you've got your OTAs but I guess you could have loaded them on a USB stick to flash instead of wifi)

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

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Cat and mouse. Then we shall only ever connect to a throwaway wifi ssid created for the sole purpose of setting up that TV and deleted promptly afterwards. Samsung will then use NFC / QuickShare transient hotspot to helpfully sync all useful info from your Samsung phone nearby. Then we block that IP address or MAC ID from router side. Then smart TVs will switch to open mesh networks hosted by unsuspecting ISP custome…

I'm going to convert my living room into a Faraday cage, only bringing in pre downloaded content via hard drive. That should solve this problem. Although I'm not sure my family will be too happy.

Why not change your wifi password? Or just set up a temporary guest one and delete it?

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

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This is outrageous and we need to stand up against it. You're merely avoiding the danger of uber-enshittification of hardware (now once software is enshittified enough), but this will crawl further and further. Meanwhile rating companies are lowering ratings of firms that DO NOT have 'subscription model' in their products, that's why we're intended to pay for enabling heating in car seats from now on.

My car has heated and ventilated seats. These do not require a subscription.

Because it would be unpopular, not because it can't be done.

Rest assured, when the time is right and the average consumer complacent enough, they will require a subscription. Yes, I can see the future. Call me an Oracle. No, not that Oracle.

Over the past many decades, we're seeing standards slip and slip as our standards for goods are constantly challenged. What was unthinkable just 10 years ago is now business as usual.

If you told someone in 2005 they would have to upload their ID and scan their face to use a chat application, they would call you crazy. If you told someone in 2015 that Google Glass was gonna come back and this time people would like being recorded and would willingly give up their camera feed, they would think you're insane.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#128

Here could some European company that already makes tv to step in and create something good, with no ads, and even better if they promise to open the sourcecode, bootloader etc... Something like Philips for example. But I guess they are too busy making lightbulbs to notice that they could fill that gap on the TV market space.

Philips has made "smart" TVs for years, including OLEDs, and they're more or less Android TVs like most other manufacturers. So I wouldn't hold your breath for them.

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

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Searching for "commercial display" will get you some dumb TVs. They tend to cost 2x, but you get what you pay for. We just gave away our 55" Hisense to our friend. I hope she doesn't think it means we hate her now. ;) (Side note: not having a TV in the living space allowed us to freely design it to be a living space.)

What do you do with this living space without a TV? Serious question from someone who grew up with a TV companion. I imagine this is what the current generation feels when thinking about smartphones.

>What do you do with this living space without a TV?

My main social space is my front porch, which is a semi-enclosed dogrun with ample seating (no TV). My "living room" doesn't have a couch, which naturally forces you towards seating (aforementioned outside). There is a small table, with two chairs only; bookshelves, artwork, and projectspace mostly for standing room only.

Not really much of a socialite, but I really don't like TVs (nor people in my small space).

>current generation feels ... about smartphones

I don't use those, either. Hate that everything is now an app (including parking).

old_man_yells_at_clouds.gif (early forties)

Re: Hisense TVs add unskippable startup ads before live TV

#130

Hisense has low taste.

IMO when ads have to be force-fed to consumers means the ad industry has already jumped the shark. Advertising is dominated by a few giants, trying to push a niche of even more ads becomes a waste of resources for always diminishing returns. Yet advertisers still believe more ads always mean more sales.

Just wait until these ad spaces are used for political propaganda/messages from the leaders. The unskippable stuff already implements the toolkit for further escalation.

Related: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47325280

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