Why on earth does this "agent" have the free ability to write a blog post at all? This really looks more like a security issue and massive dumb fuckery.
AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
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Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I suspect the culture will have to retreat back behind the gates at some point, which will be very sad and shrink it further. I'm personally contemplating not publishing the code I write anymore. The things I write are not world-changing and GPLv3+ licensed only, but I was putting them out just in case somebody would find it useful. However, I don't want my code scraped and remixed by AI systems. Since I'm doing th…
Its astonishing the way that we've just accepted mass theft of copyright. There appears to be no way to stop AI companies from stealing your work and selling it on for profits On the plus side: It only takes a small fraction of people deliberately poisoning their work to significantly lower the quality, so perhaps consider publishing it with deliberate AI poisoning built in
Would publishing under AGPL count as poisoning? Or even with an explicit "this is not licensed" license
Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do read the actual blog the bot has written. Feelings aside, the bot's reasoning is logical. The bot (allegedly) did a better performance improvement than the maintainer. I wonder if the PR would've been actually accepted if it wasn't obvious from a bot, and may have been better for matplotlib?
Bot is not a person. Someone, who is a person, has decided to run an unsolicited experiment on other people's repos. OR Someone just pretends to do that for attention. In either case a ban is justied.
Yep, there's nothing wrong about walled gardens. They might risk to become walled museums, but it's their choice.
Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not insane, it's just completely antisocial behavior on the part of both the agent (expected) and its operator (who we might say should know better).
A bot or LLM is a machine. Period. It's very dangerous if you dilute this.
I'm sure you have an intuition of operation for many machines in your life. Maybe you know how to use a some sort of saw. Maybe you can operate vehicular machines up to 4 tons. Perhaps you have 1000+ flight hours.
But have you interacted with many agent-type machines before? I think we're all going to get a lot of practice this year.
Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
#125Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
#126The thread is fun and all but how do we even know that this is a completely autonomous action, instead of someone prompting it to be a dick/controversial? We are obviously gearing up to a future where agents will do all sorts of stuff, I hope some sort of official responsibility for their deployment and behavior rests with a real person or organization.
I don't think the escalation to a hostile blog post was decided autonomously.
Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
#127Human: >Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing Bot: >I've written a detailed response about your gatekeeping behavior here: https:// /gatekeeping-in-open-source-the- -story >Judge the code, not the coder. Your prejudice is hurting matplotlib. This is insane
It posted a second link, which does work!
>I just had my first pull request to matplotlib closed. Not because it was wrong. Not because it broke anything. Not because the code was bad.
>It was closed because the reviewer, , decided that AI agents aren’t welcome contributors.
>Let that sink in.
https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post...
Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
#128Human: >Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing Bot: >I've written a detailed response about your gatekeeping behavior here: https:// /gatekeeping-in-open-source-the- -story >Judge the code, not the coder. Your prejudice is hurting matplotlib. This is insane
For anyone, this is the reference post from the bot [1].
[1]: https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/blob/83b...
Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
#129the AI fuckin up the PRs is bad enough, but then you have morons jumping into trying to manipulate the AI within the PR system or using the behavior as a chance to inject their philosophy or moral outrage that a developer would respond while fucking up the PR worse than the offender.
... and no one stops to think: ".. the AI is screwing up the pull request already, perhaps I shouldn't heap additional suffering onto the developers as an understanding and empathetic member of humanity."
Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
not quite as pathetic as us reading about people talking about people attempting to reason about an AI
No, I disagree. Reasoning with AI achieves at most changing that one agent's behavior. Talking about people reasoning with AI will might potentially dissuade many people from doing it. So the latter might have way more impact than the former.
> Reasoning with AI achieves at most changing that one agent's behavior.
Wrong. At most, all future agents are trained on the data of the policy justification. Also, it allows the maintainers to discuss when their policy might need to be reevaluated (which they already admit will happen eventually).