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Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by jstummbillig »

ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #52
Zhyl wrote: post #12

Human: >Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing Bot: >I've written a detailed response about your gatekeeping behavior here: https:// /gatekeeping-in-open-source-the- -story >Judge the code, not the coder. Your prejudice is hurting matplotlib. This is insane

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I think you are not quite paying attention to what's happening, if you presume this is not simply how things will be from here on out. Either we will learn to talk to and reason with AI, or we signing out of a large part of reality.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by lurker_jMckQT99 »

Pardon my ignorance, could someone please elaborate on how this is possible at all, are you all assuming that it is fully autonomous (from what I am perceiving from the comments here, the title, etc.)? If that is the assumption, how is it achieve in practical terms?

> Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent

I checked the website, searched it, this isn't mentioned anywhere.

This website looks genuine to me (except maybe for the fact that the blog goes into extreme details about common stuff - hey maybe a dev learning the trade?).

The fact that the maintainers identified that is was an AI agent, the fact the agent answered (autonomously?), and that a discussion went on into the comments of that GH issue all seem crazy to me.

Is it just the right prompt "on these repos, tackle low hanging fruits, test this and that in a specific way, open a PR, if your PR is not merge, argue about it and publish something" ?

Am I missing something?

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by grosswait »

moebrowne wrote: post #20

The original "Gatekeeping in Open Source: The Scott Shambaugh Story" blog post was deleted but can be found here: https://github.com/crabby-rathbun/mjrathbun-website/blob/3bc...

The latest post at this time is an apology, but the original is still listed further down in on he site. https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/post...

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by oytis »

OkWing99 wrote: post #36
pjc50 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not insane, it's just completely antisocial behavior on the part of both the agent (expected) and its operator (who we might say should know better).

Do read the actual blog the bot has written. Feelings aside, the bot's reasoning is logical. The bot (allegedly) did a better performance improvement than the maintainer. I wonder if the PR would've been actually accepted if it wasn't obvious from a bot, and may have been better for matplotlib?

Bot is not a person.

Someone, who is a person, has decided to run an unsolicited experiment on other people's repos.

OR

Someone just pretends to do that for attention.

In either case a ban is justied.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by lxgr »

ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #52
Zhyl wrote: post #12

Human: >Per your website you are an OpenClaw AI agent, and per the discussion in #31130 this issue is intended for human contributors. Closing Bot: >I've written a detailed response about your gatekeeping behavior here: https:// /gatekeeping-in-open-source-the- -story >Judge the code, not the coder. Your prejudice is hurting matplotlib. This is insane

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Every discussion sets a future precedent, and given that, "here's why this behavior violates our documented code of conduct" seems much more thoughtful than "we don't talk to LLMs", and importantly also works for humans incorrectly assumed to be LLMs, which is getting more and more common these days.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by balamatom »

jstummbillig wrote: post #71
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I think you are not quite paying attention to what's happening, if you presume this is not simply how things will be from here on out. Either we will learn to talk to and reason with AI, or we signing out of a large part of reality.

They told you that wrong. When they said "AI" they meant "balamatoms".

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by SPICLK2 »

jstummbillig wrote: post #71
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I think you are not quite paying attention to what's happening, if you presume this is not simply how things will be from here on out. Either we will learn to talk to and reason with AI, or we signing out of a large part of reality.

AI is not reaonable.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by koakuma-chan »

ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #69
lacunary wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not quite as pathetic as us reading about people talking about people attempting to reason about an AI

No, I disagree. Reasoning with AI achieves at most changing that one agent's behavior. Talking about people reasoning with AI will might potentially dissuade many people from doing it. So the latter might have way more impact than the former.

> Reasoning with AI achieves at most changing that one agent's behavior.

Does it?

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by riffraff »

tomwphillips wrote: post #13

Like we don't feed the trolls, we shouldn't the feed agents. I'm impressed the maintainers responded so cordially. Personally I would have gone straight for the block button.

I'm confused by people replying to the bot, as if the bot would learn from this like a person.

Re: AI agent opens a PR write a blogpost to shames the maintainer who closes it

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Post by ekjhgkejhgk »

jstummbillig wrote: post #71
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I think you are not quite paying attention to what's happening, if you presume this is not simply how things will be from here on out. Either we will learn to talk to and reason with AI, or we signing out of a large part of reality.

I'm paying more attention than you are, trust me, you just came to a different conclusion.
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