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Facebook, I want my friends back

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Re: Facebook, I want my friends back

#121
My major annoyance is that I'm not seeing the majority of Pages I Liked posts, but yet I see every individual friends' "Likes and Comments". I really don't want to see that my friend Liked a picture of a dead baby that 100,000 other idiots Liked because the text told them if they don't another kid will die.

Best part is, the only way to change this is to shut it off for each individual friend - not exactly convenient.

Re: Facebook, I want my friends back

#122
I do not currently have a fan page on Facebook, but if I did, I would have assumed that people who liked my page would receive my posts in their news feed. It seems odd to me that Facebook is allowing you to build a fan base while promoting their product but then charging you to reach them. Sure, I could go to their fan page but as a Facebook user, I like them so that I do not have to go to that fan page.

For example, if my Crossfit box posts a new WOD everyday, I would greatly prefer to have that in my news feed rather than having to go search out the fan page again. I could have just gone to their actual web site.

It would be very nice if you could use the search box to search on your news feed posts. If I could quickly do a search for the Crossfit box and get to the daily post.... awesomesauce!

Re: Facebook, I want my friends back

#123

OK, I get that DangerousMinds posts a ridiculous amount and would definitely be deleted from my account and probably should have to pay for advertising on an ad platform, but what about other use cases: I run a nonprofit alumni association here in Boston and I use FB as a way to update alumni of changes in events so that we can limit the numbers of emails we send. We were using Facebook as sort of an information plat…

For something like an association or a team organization, a Facebook group would make a lot more sense. That lets you make sure your messages get to everyone.

I hope you have the opportunity to read this and reply (or anyone else that knows more about this). My understanding of groups is that they are more for short term active discussions where as pages are better for long term relationships. Also, I don't think you can add events to pages, where you can for groups.

Am I looking at this wrong?

Re: Facebook, I want my friends back

#124
post #28

If you're posting 10-16 posts a day and you forcibly put each of these into 100% of your fans, you're going to shrink your base. If you did that to me, I'm going to hide or Unlike your page. If you emailed me those posts, I'd be hitting unsubscribe in half a day. The Facebook News Feed isn't an RSS reader, and the Like button isn't Subscribe. I would suggest just posting once a day, and using the Promoted Posts for t…

Let's not forget the intent of this article- Facebook is screwing page owners and real fans of the page over. Like used to be "Become a Fan". And a page owner used to be able "Send updates" to fans. There are lots of us who had tens of thousands of fans, who actually were fans. But "Fan" became "Like" and "Send updates" disappeared, and slowly posts that were shown to most of your fans were now showed to almost none. Through all these changes and monetization products Facebook has diluted it all to the point it's become useless.

They're hacks and cheats. There are other ways they could have done this.

Re: Facebook, I want my friends back

#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Home Depot (Starbucks, Applebee's, whatever) set both a floor and a ceiling for expectation of quality. For every crappy mom and pop hardware store that is poorly run, there is also an independent hardware store with kind and helpful people. When I am traveling, I will go to Starbucks, but in my city, I know where the exceptional coffee is. edit: s/privacy/quality

Privacy? What?

Sorry, I meant "Quality". Edited. Thanks for pointing that out.

Re: Facebook, I want my friends back

#126
Facebook is screwing page owners and real fans of the page over - and it's been going on for years. Like used to be "Become a Fan". And a page owner used to be able "Send updates" to fans. There are lots of us who had tens of thousands of fans, who actually were fans. But "Fan" became "Like" and "Send updates" disappeared, and slowly posts that were shown to most of your fans were now showed to almost none. Through all these changes and monetization products Facebook has diluted it all to the point it's become useless.

Reasonable? No way.

Re: Facebook, I want my friends back

#127
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a rule, I don't "Like" sites, but I was unaware that it actually meant "subscribe me to this."

That bugs me too. I like a lot of things, but I don't want to hear or see any of them in my timeline. I used to click "Like" on various things in Facebook, but after starting to see them in my feed I immediately un-Liked them. I'm willing to tell my friends I like Logitech keyboards, but I'm not willing to see whatever posts the Logitech PR decides to write. If I'm interested to learn about what new keyboards/mice th…

This is a tricky thing. Facebook's business model, and its value proposition to advertisers to a large degree depends on oversharing, and your "Likes" are an example of this. If somebody asked me if I wanted my email subscriptions broadcast to all my friends, I would say "heck no." But if nobody agreed to share their subscriptions, then how would advertisers get word of mouth?

So they phrase it a bit differently. You don't subscribe, you "like." And your likes and dislikes are a part of your personality, which is something you want to share with your friends. The subscription is just a side effect of liking, and it allows marketers to use your name to spread their brand among your friends and acquaintances.

If they just called a spade a spade, it would be a disaster for them.

Re: Facebook, I want my friends back

#128
post #6

I had hoped this article was going to be able how to convince your friends to communicate with a medium other than Facebook.

This post misses the biggest logical point that is vitally needed: there was no Newsfeed in the beginning. At all. Then there was a Newsfeed. Then it showed more than just wall posts. Then there were TOO MANY things on it, so they scaled it back. The Newsfeed was an experiment, and it worked, but it needed tweaking. That's why this happened. That they now allow you to pay to promote is secondary to the original origi…

Bullshit. There are other ways they could have filtered Newsfeed- it didn't have to be an algorithm. People, fans, pages could do it themselves if only the platform enabled them.

Re: Facebook, I want my friends back

#130
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook users aren't its customers, facebook users are its products. Better think again.

This "product" meme is inaccurate and misleading. You are the product in the same way that Lebron James is the NBA's product, the same way that a top partner at Goldman Sacs is the product, the same way that Justin Bieber is the product, and the same way that you yourself is the product every time you apply for a job interview or raise funds. Being the "product" gives you a great position in your relationship with th…

Facebook cares about keeping the shareholders happy. That means that they have to dramatically increase the opportunities for companies with money to give it to Facebook for access to the users. It's very clear that Facebook doesn't care about keeping their users happy. They went from 'provide opportunities for growth in size' to 'provide opportunities for growth of our bank account'. They'll continue to aggressively push this trend as far as they can - until users start leaving facebook for good.
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