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No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by Alupis »

subscribed wrote: post #44
ramon156 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

May I suggest you give fedora a go? It still feels like the most mature distro out there, but I can be biased

I used both Fedora and Ubuntu for years and couldn't point to the _better_ distribution. Maybe one thing I had with Fedora: I had to trail one major distribution behind, because going for the most recent releases always ended up hurting me. But that's just for work. I don't think I can move my gaming to Linux yet

I've been using the latest Fedora full-time for over two years without issue, and have been doing nearly all my gaming on it as well. The only gaming that doesn't work are games that deliberately use anti-cheat that doesn't support anything but Windows (typically the games run great in single player or offline, but multiplayer refuses to work). Of my Steam catalog, over 90% just works, and a large amount of that now has native Linux support thanks to the Steam Deck.

What particular issues were you experiencing?

As a counter anecdote, on my Windows installation I routinely run into "WTF" moments, such as BitLocker randomly deciding I need to enter recovery codes, the constant nagware that is OneDrive and friends, plus when I search for the same binary exe I've launched a dozen times Windows still displays "web results" first - fooling me just about every time.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by shmerl »

nokeya wrote: post #109
shmerl wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't recommend Mint. Better use something with recent KDE Plasma and recent kernel and Mesa for best Wayland experience. Especially speaking of playing games, I periodically see newcomer Linux gamers hitting problems due to Mint being outdated and not having good Wayland support. Especially for any kind of recent hardware.

Any examples of “something with recent kde”? I have Ubuntu currently, wanted to switch to the Mint, now want to hear more opinions

I'd say any rolling distro. Try Debian testing or unstable if you prefer Debian distros family (choose KDE during installation). Or try Arch.

KDE also started making its own Arch based distro now: https://kde.org/linux/

But it's one of those immutable flavors. I prefer something more flexible.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by tombert »

I just want to rant a bit about Microsoft right now.

A few weeks ago, Microsoft decided to auto-update my mom's computer to Windows 11, and delightfully the computer no longer booted. Even after a litany of different boot keystrokes and automatic repairs and attempted recoveries, it would not boot. I think it has something to do with the utter incompetence of the Windows automatic update process not correctly updating keys to satisfy UEFI but I am not sure.

Of course my parents being my parents, there were tons of precious documents that were not backed up anywhere else, so we needed to get them off before doing anything nuclear. After awhile, I was able to talk my dad through flashing an Ubuntu image and I was able to get a live USB going (because as far as I am aware there isn't a legitimate way to do a live USB with Windows), and from there he read me a tmate URL and I was able to mount the drive and rsync all the data to my server.

With many, many failed attempts at trying to convince them to install Linux Mint, I eventually walked them through flashing a USB drive with Windows 11, and we were able to nuke the drive and install Windows 11, which seems to be working, so I guess all's well that ends well, but not really. Key point here, before anyone says anything, the laptop is a bit old but it seems to be able to run Windows 11 just fine, it's just the automatic update that broke it.

You might be saying "live and let live, if they're happy with Windows then stop trying to force them to use Linux", and to that I would say "it's not just about them". When something breaks on their computer, it's expected that I am the one who fixes it. Microsoft, a for-profit trillion-dollar corporation, is so utterly bad at their main job that they actively broke my mother's computer with an automatic update that she couldn't easily opt out of for an operating system she didn't want, and if she didn't have a son who was a software engineer she would have been forced to buy a new computer. For all I know, another Windows 11 auto update will come in two weeks and break the computer, and I will be stuck going through this nonsense yet again, because I love my parents and I want to help them out.

If anyone from Microsoft is reading this, especially if you work on the automatic update or the Windows 11 team, I'm afraid that I have to say that I actively dislike you. You've cost me many days of effort because ultimately I think you are extremely bad at your jobs and you should consider doing literally anything else.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by eptcyka »

vee-kay wrote: post #35
grishka wrote: post #15

And Windows itself still costs money somehow, despite clearly acting as a free product.

Windows 10 was indeed offered free worldwide to users already using older licenced versions of Windows. Microsoft even touted Windows 10 as last version of Windows. But it was typical bait-and-switch gambit by Micro$oft, and support for Windows 10 is ending in Oct 2025 (rejecting the pleas from thousands of companies worldwide to extend its Win10 support for longer while), because M$ thinks everyone will migrate to W…

Microsoft will learn nothing they didn’t know before. They’ve operated like this before, and their bottom line will not suffer.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by meltyness »

brushfoot wrote: post #55
badsectoracula wrote: post #12

May i suggest some solutions? :-P -> https://endof10.org/ (it has a map with people who can help install Linux) -> https://www.opensuse.org/ (what i'm using on my PCs, works fine for the most part[0]) -> https://www.linuxmint.com/ (people seem to like this) -> https://bazzite.gg/ (seems to be popular with gamers) -> https://www.debian.org/ (almost everything is based on this :-P) [0] for the most part because nothing…

My main reasons for using Windows right now are: - Davinci Resolve - Adobe suite - AutoHotkey scripts, lots of them - Microsoft Office, mainly PowerPoint, Excel and Word for creating and interacting with other companies' docs. Libre/OpenOffice mangled them/were missing features I depend on - Issues with my laptop's Nvidia card (screen tearing etc.) last time I tried to switch, and rabbit holes that I don't have time…

Linux for me is all about customization and control, particularly of hardware, which you'd usually do for optimization (performance, workflow, latency, stability), which is fun if you care about optimization and efficiency, but for "good enough/I'm used to it/I'm a satisfied paying customer" I suppose there's no reason to investigate or risk. The market has poured loads of capital into satisfying PC multimedia use-case.

I'd suspect there's probably versions of all those that have been made to function basically through WINE.

If your curious, it's very easy to use it as a hypervisor, and pull out what you can, though IOMMU/SR-IOV might be tricky.

Alternatively, checking if Blender/GIMP service your use cases wouldn't even require switching...

AutoHotKey has been solved a lot of different ways, for sure.

But yeah, granular detailed control over your hardware is still the primary use-case for Linux, so if you view bad defaults, annoying install procedures, occasional show stopping bugs a hindrance rather than an opportunity, maybe it's not a strong candidate.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by Alupis »

nokeya wrote: post #109
shmerl wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't recommend Mint. Better use something with recent KDE Plasma and recent kernel and Mesa for best Wayland experience. Especially speaking of playing games, I periodically see newcomer Linux gamers hitting problems due to Mint being outdated and not having good Wayland support. Especially for any kind of recent hardware.

Any examples of “something with recent kde”? I have Ubuntu currently, wanted to switch to the Mint, now want to hear more opinions

Fedora

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by handsclean »

bigyabai wrote: post #69
GeekyBear wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When Apple forces users to use an online account to access their local Mac, and disables their OS unless they turn on iCloud on their Mac -- then you can claim equivalence between them.

I can claim equivalence between them whenever I want. If both OSes adopt and enforce my biggest pet peeves, then no amount of eye candy or freebie features will fix my workflow. Gatekeeping and second opinions don't really move the needle on where I stand with either company.

Showing up in a thread you haven’t even participated in and saying “I’ve already made my choice, quit giving me second opinions” is comically self-centered.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by erikpukinskis »

nomilk wrote: post #94
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #48

Hope the PM in charge with the scammy copy designed to trick people into turning this on is happy with the boost in free users falling for it. My dad turned it on not knowing what it meant and it completely messed up his workflows and now I have to figure out how to safely disable it and move his files back. I will remember Microsoft causing this problem for him every time I think of or get asked if someone should us…

This work is 10x more effort than it sounds too due to how severely mistakes are penalised (i.e. unrecoverable files), necessitating extreme caution. When uploading 10k photos from macOS to Google Cloud using the Google Cloud macOS app, it said syncing had completed about 2 hours earlier than my back-of-the-envelope calculations predicted. "Great", I thought, but was still a bit suspicious, so just in case, before de…

I wish more software companies had a core value of “every user created bit is sacred.”

Storage is cheap enough that this attitude is possible.

But I guess keeping all of your designers aware of it across thousands of teams is too hard.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Post by Alupis »

soupbowl wrote: post #45
CrossVR wrote: post #40

Since no one mentioned how to actually dismiss the notification forever: OneDrive is treated as a normal app that is installed by default, you can actually just uninstall it through Add or Remove Programs in the Control Panel.

During a major update it will be reinstalled.

Along with Teams if you have Microsoft 365 for Business.

Bejeweled and friends tend to show back up again on consumer machines too, I've noticed.

Absolute headache...

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