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Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by tamimio »

HAL3000 wrote: post #78

All of the examples in videos are cherry picked. Go ask anyone working on humanoid robots today, almost everything you see here, if repeated 10 times, will enter failure mode because the happy path is so narrow. There should really be benchmarks where you invite robots from different companies, ask them beforehand about their capabilities, and then create an environment that is within those capabilities but was not u…

> Go ask anyone working on humanoid robots today, almost everything you see here, if repeated 10 times, will enter failure mode

As someone who worked in the robotics industry, 90% of the demos and videos are cherry-picked, or even blatantly fake. That's why for any new robot in the market, my criteria is: Can I buy it? If it's affordable and the consumer can buy it and find it useful in day to day life, then this robot is useful and has potential; other than that, it's just an investor money grab PR hype.

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by Teknomadix »

From the Figure Master Plan:

"Today, manual labor compensation is the primary driver of goods and services prices, accounting for ~50% of global GDP (~$42 trillion/yr), but as these robots “join the workforce,” everywhere from factories to farmland, the cost of labor will decrease until it becomes equivalent to the price of renting a robot, facilitating a long-term, holistic reduction in costs.”

Renting a robot? What are the chances of robot rent-seeking becoming a drop in replacement for today's increasing costs of labor. A high likelihood potential outcome.

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Post by imtringued »

baron816 wrote: post #83

It’s crazy to me that Apple hasn’t acquired them. Apple is looking for a way to get into AI, and I think this space is much more natural fit than some foundation model lab. The big hurdles to getting these into people’s homes is manufacturing scale, trust and privacy, and customer support, all things Apple is really good at.

Why would Apple acquire a company with a 39 billion dollar valuation that has no revenue whatsoever?

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by dilap »

natemcintosh wrote: post #23

I would love to have something like this for all the chores around my house. But I also have serious reservations about the increased level insight into my private home life this could provide to the manufacturer. Look at cases like the ring camera security violations [1]. A moving robot could be an order of magnitude more invasive of your privacy. If I were to purchase this, I would want serious privacy guarantees.…

Forget privacy, imagine what someone like @elder_plinius could get up to if you invited them over to dinner. All of the "AI Safety" issues get a lot more real once the AI's have bodies.

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by wongarsu »

HAL3000 wrote: post #78

All of the examples in videos are cherry picked. Go ask anyone working on humanoid robots today, almost everything you see here, if repeated 10 times, will enter failure mode because the happy path is so narrow. There should really be benchmarks where you invite robots from different companies, ask them beforehand about their capabilities, and then create an environment that is within those capabilities but was not u…

The last example they show (pick up package from pile, put it label-down on conveyor, repeat) seems to be the most realistic. They even have an uncut video of their previous model doing that for an hour on twitter [1].

I'm not sure that task needs a humanoid robot, but the ability to grab and manipulate all those packages and recover from failures is pretty good

1: https://x.com/adcock_brett/status/1931391783306678515

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by imtringued »

cchance wrote: post #86
mhitza wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't wait to read the headline when one of them gets hacked and turned into murderous robots.

Honestly shocked we havent seen videos of these running with guns yet

WhistlinDiesel

https://youtu.be/zBCu8HmXoRo

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by imtringued »

robots0only wrote: post #117
ihumanable wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've got an hour long video of it sorting packages if you want a longer clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkc2y0yb89U They've shown the "putting dishes in the dishwasher" bit before, it seems to be getting better, but I imagine it still has a high failure rate. I wonder if this company started off or has some founder that's really interested in the "handling deformable stuff" space. They really seem keen to pro…

Here you can see another much simpler robot folding clothes for far longer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdeBIR0jVvU (there are more videos from other companies as well) To answer your question -- folding clothes is easy, because clothes easily deform, do not break, fall smoothly when you drop them and most importantly are easily resettable task. Just through the well folded cloth up and voila start again.

Actually, folding clothes is a challenging dexterity task. However, it's a trivial mechanical engineering task, which is why it is so popular with underpowered robot arms.

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by guerrilla »

HAL3000 wrote: post #78

All of the examples in videos are cherry picked. Go ask anyone working on humanoid robots today, almost everything you see here, if repeated 10 times, will enter failure mode because the happy path is so narrow. There should really be benchmarks where you invite robots from different companies, ask them beforehand about their capabilities, and then create an environment that is within those capabilities but was not u…

No doubt. This video is just to hype investors. I'm sure they have more practical business plans than this.

Re: Figure 03, our 3rd generation humanoid robot

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Post by imtringued »

sho_hn wrote: post #18
ACCount37 wrote: post #12

Building the robot itself is hard enough - but it was never the hardest part. The thing to watch out for is: deployments. How many units are they pushing and to who. What kind of tasks can those robots accomplish well enough to warrant actually using them. How hard is it to adapt those robots to deployments. How that changes over time. The hardest problem of creating a universal robot is, and always has been, AI. If…

I think the glossy 7min trailer has it about right: The first realistic deployments will be champagne holders at parties and robots at hotel receptions. Novelty toys for the wealthy. Commoditization and Walmart-level deployments at scale are still a few gens off.

Robot receptionists are a pretty good idea if it wasn't for the fact that their head design is pretty ugly.
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