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Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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Post by churchill »

the_real_cher wrote: post #119
churchill wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that website implies what you're thinking. The only significant thing that happened in 1971 is that Nixon suspended the convertibility of the dollar into gold, giving the US leeway to run unlimited deficits, paying for imports with paper. Now, America wants to reduce its debt and curb industrial powers like the EU, Japan, China, etc. but it doesn't want to give up its exorbitant privilege that got it in…

Its just data. It could be a result of numerous causes. My point still stands.

No, your point doesn't stand at all. It's completely baseless. You took a detailed resource referencing America's departure from a gold standard and you're twisting it to support your pet immigration policy.

Now, if you want to limit non-European immigration, it's a personal opinion and you have a right to it, but you can't make a blanket statement that, "everything worked better," or misinterpret data to say what you want.

Don't pretend you're being data-driven when you've made up your mind and now you're trying to torture the data into saying what you want.

What metrics are you measuring by?

So, while it seemed like you were trying to argue logically, it appears your argument is: I don't like non-Europeans. And you're trying to massage the data into showing your opinion is data-driven because it can't stand on its own merit.

But, feel free to change my mind with more data.

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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Post by triceratops »

the_real_cher wrote: post #114
triceratops wrote: post #110

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I'm asking about things working better when only Europeans were allowed, not the law. You were implying the former with your comment.

there's objective evidence That things were working better when only Europeans were allowed. https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

Aah racism. Cool cool cool glad you got it out there.

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Post by LPisGood »

the_real_cher wrote: post #113
NickC25 wrote: post #109

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>Typically smart people arent limited to specific areas of being smart. That's kind of the definition of being smart is figuring things out. Having worked with everyone over the course of my life from PhDs to construction workers, I'm going to have to hard disagree on this one. Just because someone is gifted in one area, does not mean their intelligence or domain expertise applies everywhere. Domain expertise is a re…

there's a billion people in some countries..and none of them are smart in the vaguely defined field of building infrastructure? They just happened to all be super smart at coding Java?

If you’re a bright kid, it’s way easier to get really good at Java then to get really good at boot strapping infrastructure with limited resources

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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Post by LPisGood »

the_real_cher wrote: post #120
churchill wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you. We don't even have to imagine: the UK and US were planning preemptive nuclear strikes against the entire Soviet Union before they tested their first nuke. Operation Dropshot and Unthinkable called for hundreds of nukes and conventional bombs to be dropped on Soviet cities to, "to impose upon Russia the will of the United States and the British Empire." All in all, I don't even have a dog in the figh…

> They will simply create companies and products that compete and take market share from American companies. Trade and innovation benefits all of mankind. A rising tide lifts all ships. Having multiple countries becoming successful instead of the US simply monopolizing talent would benefit the world. > Glad Qian Xuesen helped China improve their missile innovation. Nuclear Deterrence should be spread far and wide so…

> Having multiple countries becoming successful instead of the US simply monopolizing talent would benefit the world

In particular, it is a marginal detriment to the US. That’s why my original comment said this loss is a shame for USA.

Re: Nearly 20 Percent Fewer International Students Traveled to the U.S. in August

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Post by the_real_cher »

LPisGood wrote: post #123
the_real_cher wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there's a billion people in some countries..and none of them are smart in the vaguely defined field of building infrastructure? They just happened to all be super smart at coding Java?

If you’re a bright kid, it’s way easier to get really good at Java then to get really good at boot strapping infrastructure with limited resources

Sources needed.
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