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Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by fluidcruft »

simonsarris wrote: post #8

Wow. Lots of impressions here. MySpace is so small now! And shrinking! Let us never forget that history. Tumblr and pinterest are adding a lot fewer users than I thought. Gosh just look at the page. Google+ looks very clean and beautiful compared to Facebook these days. I'm reminded of when everybody used to say "Facebook looks very clean and beautiful compared to MySpace these days". Google has a big leg up here as…

> just on the fact that it gets you into the google ecosystem

Don't forget that increased G+ use also should mean reduced eyeballs to the competition. If google gets its revenue from non-social, making social a monitization wasteland is a plus for them.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by saraid216 »

incongruity wrote: post #44
huggyface wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but I know dozens of people on LinkedIn. I know one active Google+ user and he's a bit of a Google fanboy to begin with. Why is there the need to respond to data with anecdotes? If I give a Google+ growth anecdote, does that invalidate yours? I have no idea why Google+ is being compared to LinkedIn. They have very little overlap. Even among Facebook and Google+ the overlap is limited. Nonetheless Google keeps it…

Because data can also lie. The key here is that the number reported is "unique visitors" – what, exactly, is this telling us? Not much at all because it says nothing of intent, much less duration of stay on that page or frequency of use. In the absence of that additional data, anecdotes can be useful to express doubt or confusion about data that seems to not pass the sniff-test. It can be as minimal as "is it just me…

OP: Wrong.

Anecdote: Wrong.

incongruity: Two wrongs make a right!

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by saraid216 »

muhfuhkuh wrote: post #16
brudgers wrote: post #2

I'm on Google+ because I have a Gmail account. I'm on Linkedin (and Facebook) because they offer value.

The irony is that most people use Facebook (and LinkedIn) as glorified publicly-facing email accounts with automatic reply-to-all and attachments set to auto-open and display in-line. The only thing added is a rudimentary voting system.

> The only thing added is a rudimentary voting system.

I feel obligated to take issue with your characterization of Likes as voting of ... any kind. Or were you referring to something else? I'm not an FB expert.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by saraid216 »

dbecker wrote: post #103

I'm reminded that Google+ hasn't caught every time I log on. Between visits, I think I forget it even exists.

Odd. I've had to stop logging in as frequently because I keep finding new stuff to read there. And I keep having to mute posts I've commented on because the discussion moves too fast while I'm busy working.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by incongruity »

saraid216 wrote: post #122
incongruity wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because data can also lie. The key here is that the number reported is "unique visitors" – what, exactly, is this telling us? Not much at all because it says nothing of intent, much less duration of stay on that page or frequency of use. In the absence of that additional data, anecdotes can be useful to express doubt or confusion about data that seems to not pass the sniff-test. It can be as minimal as "is it just me…

OP: Wrong. Anecdote: Wrong. incongruity: Two wrongs make a right!

George E.P. Box is quoted as saying: "All models are wrong, but some are useful."

I would adapt that and say that all anecdotes are wrong, but some are useful.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by Steko »

bsphil wrote: post #104
Steko wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claims of G+'s amazing growth always looks silly when I run this bookmarked Insights: http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=Google%20Plus%2CIns...

Does "Google Plus" also cover "G+" and "Google+" and whatever other variation of the name there is? That's probably the last way I'd think of searching for statistics on it. Everything else you listed doesn't have any common aliases.

It doesn't appear to and I'm not exactly sure when + becomes viable in trends/insights although looking at it it looks like it's there for the last year or so.

However if you double the result volume to account for Google Plus and Google+ it's still unimpressive. More importantly the curve is flat for both.

http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=Google%20Plus%2CGoo...

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by kayman »

Google+ is okay for early adopters but as long as my family and friends are immersed in facebook, the G+ is a hard sell. But since most people use google, and google has unified login system, it is very easy to join google+. But actively use it? I don't know. Does the average user spend so many minutes on google+ everyday like they do on facebook? I don't think so.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by donniezazen »

taligent wrote: post #107
donniezazen wrote: post #25

1. Google+ is a lot more open. I get to interact with variety of people through public posts. 2. I have gotten rid of RSS Reader and now get all updates on G+ and blog. One less thing to worry about. 3. Too many people make too many posts on Facebook. Circle on G+ is growing on me. 4. I like everything Google.

2. Google+ doesn't replace RSS at all. 95% of feeds I read for example have no Google+ equivalent. 3. Then filter those people from your feed or trim down the number of posts they make. 4. Even the privacy violations and anti-competitive behavior so serious they are under multiple investigations ?

I ditched RSS reader because it's a huge investment of time. I get all social media updates in G+. Most blogs would email you blog post. I have integrated all my RSS needs in programs I already use - G+ and Gmail. It is my own personal minimalist experiment.

Re: Google+ grows 43% in June

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Post by brudgers »

mvgoogler wrote: post #116
mhurron wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, you have a G+ page, space, whatever automatically because you have a gmail account? Is there a way to get rid of that?

> Wait, you have a G+ page, space, whatever automatically because you have a gmail account? No - you have to opt in. > Is there a way to get rid of that? If you want to disable G+ on your account (which will also remove your G+ profile), you can go to the "Google+" section of your Google account settings page ( https://www.google.com/settings/plus ). At the bottom there is a section labelled "Disable Google+".

When the most obvious option for avoiding a popup each time one accesses Gmail is joining Google+, it's a bit misleading to call it opting in.
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