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Why did clothing become boring?

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Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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There is cool stuff out there, just not cheap. Few of my favs:

https://craig-green.com/ https://couture.balenciaga.com/ https://isseymiyake.com https://www.jilsander.com/en-us/men/ready-to-wear/view-all-r... https://www.rickowens.eu/en/US/t/designers/drkshdw https://www.comme-des-garcons.com/junyawatanabe.html

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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I remember once showing up to the office after taking the morning off and one of my co-workers asked why I was wearing a suit and I told him I had a job interview. He thought I was joking and later repeated this to someone else and then said that I had fooled him with that before. Except I did have a job interview and I was so glad to be out of that workplace.

A funeral is probably the best way to shut off that line of discussion.

I think killing the guy would have been a bit extreme.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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> Those layers were still designed to serve a purpose - largely keeping warm Yes and no. Something that people often take for granted is doing laundry. The invention of the automatic clothes washer and dryer changed things dramatically . Before automation, laundry day for a household of 4 was a huge, laborious, and often multi-day task. Not only did garments need to be washed by hand, but there was a lot of attention…

is there any reason we still line suits today? debating removing the lining of one of my suits to see what happens

Look up “bagging” a jacket. Many are constructed with the right sides of the lining and the outer cloth together, then turned inside out. It works if the jacket is fully lined.

Go ahead and remove the lining, but look carefully how the construction is done - you may well want to put it back in.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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is there any reason we still line suits today? debating removing the lining of one of my suits to see what happens

Linings are often a slippery fabric in order to make a jacket easier to put on. The lining also reduces wear on the main body of the fabric since you are rubbing against the lining instead. Linings are also a useful way to hide the seams and other construction details of the garment. However, any of these could probably be worked around.

The visible lining is one thing, but when people talk about lining in suits it can also mean an inner structure made of stiffer material like canvas to help give the suit form and structure.

So in a more traditional suit there is the outer wool, an inner canvas structural lining, and then the slippery inner lining to hide all the seams and make it look finished.

I suspect the Edwardian suit had a slippery inner lining (or maybe cotton inner lining) but no canvas structural lining in between.

https://thesages.vn/canvas-the-secret-of-tailoring-suit/

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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Well you can make the case that people don't have to dress a certain way because we are much better insulated (metaphorically and literally) from the environment. And there are of course no sumptuary laws. So clothing can be more fun, if people want to of course - look at how music subcultures have incredibly varied ways of expression through clothing - metalheads, hiphopheads, punks etc.

>look at how music subcultures have incredibly varied ways of expression through clothing - metalheads, hiphopheads, punks etc. Metalheads? Huh? I like metal, but metal fans are some of the most boring dressers I've ever seen. Go to any metal show and you'll just see a bunch of guys wearing jeans and black T-shirts from their favorite bands' prior concert tours. Some of the musicians used to dress pretty flamboyantly…

Sure, but if you put a metal fan alongside a punk and a hip hop fan you’d be able to tell the difference, right?

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Exactly, and rightfully so. It just looks weird having it around the waist.

I still even carry my phone in a belt pouch. A major Fashion Faux Pas, because I should be cramming it down a pocket, instead, like a civilized member of society. lol.

Oh, now you made me remember the dedicated phone holder! That is another accessory that just went the way of the dodo. I guess the size of today's phones is to blame.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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I think there are a couple of important things missing from this article. One is that until relatively recently clothing served a very different function to that of today. In Europe, in our grandparents’ or even parents’ childhoods - as late even as the 1970s - housing and transport was very different to how it is now. Clothing was largely purpose-specific; people had far fewer clothes than today but those clothes ha…

> Hats weren’t fashion statements: they were to help keep you dry and warm.

And my understand I'd they also kept you safe. While a bowler hat may seem posh now, I believe it was a working class hat which was favored for its hard-hat like properties.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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You think kids now care don't use fanny packs because "someone in Hollywood declared Fanny Packs to be out of style" back when you were in high school in the 1980s? How amazingly influential this mysterious someone was, to influence things some 35 years later! Certainly more then how the beatnik and hipster styles of the 1950s influenced your generation of HS students. Since purses are another obvious solution, I pla…

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That's because you haven't clarified what the "time-frame was that someone in Hollywood declared Fanny Packs to be out of style right when tight jeans came into being".

https://archive.org/details/clarion_yb_1945/page/n27/mode/2u... shows that "tight jeans" were a thing in the 1940s (that links to a 1945 yearbook entry listing a pet peeve of "girls who wear tight jeans and sweaters").

I assume the "someone in Hollywood" refers to Yankovic's 2006 song "White & Nerdy", which characterizes the fanny pack as part "white and nerdy" fashion, indicating how it was no longer part of pop culture fashion by then. He lives in Hollywood Hills, I believe.

That was 18 years ago. It's amazing that Yankovic has that much influence on modern clothing styles.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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> Those layers were still designed to serve a purpose - largely keeping warm Yes and no. Something that people often take for granted is doing laundry. The invention of the automatic clothes washer and dryer changed things dramatically . Before automation, laundry day for a household of 4 was a huge, laborious, and often multi-day task. Not only did garments need to be washed by hand, but there was a lot of attention…

That youtube is a long rabbit hole that I'll be spending some time going down. My wife hates you... (okay, I'll be careful not to let it take up so much time my wife notices, but it could get that far if I'm not careful)

Yeah Bernadette Banner is amazing and I practically learned everything I know about how to sew and fabricate costumes from her channel.

My wife and I are part time performing magicians and what I like about magic is that it is kind of the ultimate "maker hobby." If you're performing a trick, it can be as simple as a card trick or it can be as complicated as involving prosthetic makeup and practical vfx. So you can bring in all kinds of skills from woodworking to costuming to welding to special vfx makeup and you can make the hobby as wide or narrow as you like. Being someone with a ton of hobbies mostly centred around making stuff ... it enables me to be a "renaissance man" and consolidate all of those into one focused endeavour.

So we do all of our own costuming. The 3 piece Edwardian suit I mentioned I purchased from Darcy Clothing LTD in the UK and had it fitted by a tailor and then I altered it myself to add a few sneaky features for magic reasons. And I'm currently fabricating for my wife's costume a longline underbust corset in a late Victorian / early Edwardian style to replace the mass-produced one she's been wearing that is falling apart. This is my most ambitious project yet, clothing wise, because it's the first piece of visible outer-wear that I am fabricating from scratch and to fit her. Gradually I want to be able to do all of our own tailoring and costuming from scratch (i.e: would love to be able to make my own bespoke 3-piece suit by hand) but it's a craft that takes a long time to get good at.

Re: Why did clothing become boring?

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Are you sure you replied to the right post? Your reply doesn't seem to address either of the two points in the post to which you replied.

You should just admit some people genuinely don't follow trends. Bro it took me like 6 years to even notice everyone but me had ONLY black socks. White is Faux Pas. bwahahahahaha.

Are you sure you replied to the right post? Your reply doesn't seem to address the post to which it replied.
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