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Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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How do you explain a horse 2 legs become 4 legs when rotated assuming they only drew 2 legs on the side view

The second L in LLM stands for "language". Nothing of what you're describing has to do with language modeling. They could be using transformers, sure. But plenty of transformers-based models are not LLMs.

They are probably looking for LGMs - Large Generative Models which encapsulate vision & multi-modal models.

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This looks very cool. I really hope the results are not overly cherry-picked like Adobe's first version of the text-to-vector generation that only worked particularly well for the showcased art styles.

I won't be excited until its live in an app, company demos are always exciting.

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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I'm making some big assumptions about Adobe's product ideation process, but: This seems like the "right" way to approach developing AI products: Find a user need that can't easily be solved with traditional methods and algorithms, decide that AI is appropriate for that thing, and then build an AI system to solve it. Rather than what many BigTech companies are currently doing: "Wall Street says we need to 'Use AI Some…

I think you're being a bit too generous with Adobe here :-). I shared this before, but it's worth resharing [1]. It covers the experience of a professional artist using Adobe tools. The gist is that once a company has a captive audience with no alternatives, investors come first. Flashy (no pun intended :-p), cool features to impress investors become more important than the everyday user experience—and this feature d…

Moreover, when one looks at the chronology with which features were rolled out, all the computationally hard things which would save sufficient time/effort that folks would be willing to pay for them (and which competitors were unlikely to be able to implement) were held back until Adobe rolled out its subscription pricing model --- then and only then did the _really_ good stuff start trickling out, at a pace to ensure that companies kept up their monthly payments.

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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I think you're being a bit too generous with Adobe here :-). I shared this before, but it's worth resharing [1]. It covers the experience of a professional artist using Adobe tools. The gist is that once a company has a captive audience with no alternatives, investors come first. Flashy (no pun intended :-p), cool features to impress investors become more important than the everyday user experience—and this feature d…

I don’t think those ideas are mutually exclusive. I heavily dislike Adobe and think they’re a rotten company with predatory practices. I also think “AI art” can be harmful to artists and more often than not produces uninteresting flawed garbage at an unacceptable energy cost. Still, when I first heard of Adobe Firefly, my initial reaction was “smart business move, by exclusively using images they have the rights to”.…

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Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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I don’t think those ideas are mutually exclusive. I heavily dislike Adobe and think they’re a rotten company with predatory practices. I also think “AI art” can be harmful to artists and more often than not produces uninteresting flawed garbage at an unacceptable energy cost. Still, when I first heard of Adobe Firefly, my initial reaction was “smart business move, by exclusively using images they have the rights to”.…

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What’s the goal of your comment? You’re making a straw man argument which in no way relates to my point and ridicules the opinions of people not on this thread. That makes for uninteresting and needlessly divisive conversation.

The HN guidelines rightfully urge us to make substantive comments that advance the discussion and avoid shallow dismissals.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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There are actually multiple open source ML models for 2d to 3d which is clearly what they are doing. The difference with most of them is that this is vectors.

There might actually be a similar open source model already.

But I think to create it you would build it from a database of 3d assets that you could render from many angles. Probably quite similar to the way the 2d to 3d works. I don't know maybe the typical 2d to 3d models will work out of the box or with some kind of smoothing or parameterization. Maybe if you have a large database of parameterized 3d models then you combine that with rendering in 2d from different angles then you can basically use the existing 2d to 3d model.

https://replicate.com/collections/3d-models

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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Well, when is so big bad company going to bully us into using their tools to convert 3D sculpts into flawlessly animatable models? I'll submit to their abuse and surrender my lunch money to them. Though not if it is Adobe, I still have some self-love.

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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What’s the goal of your comment? You’re making a straw man argument which in no way relates to my point and ridicules the opinions of people not on this thread. That makes for uninteresting and needlessly divisive conversation. The HN guidelines rightfully urge us to make substantive comments that advance the discussion and avoid shallow dismissals. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I think they are actually agreeing with you. Just, in a somewhat unpleasant and sarcastic manner. They aren’t strawmanning your argument, right? They are strawmanning the argument against it.

Re: Adobe's new image rotation tool is one of the most impressive AI tools seen

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I think you're being a bit too generous with Adobe here :-). I shared this before, but it's worth resharing [1]. It covers the experience of a professional artist using Adobe tools. The gist is that once a company has a captive audience with no alternatives, investors come first. Flashy (no pun intended :-p), cool features to impress investors become more important than the everyday user experience—and this feature d…

I don’t think those ideas are mutually exclusive. I heavily dislike Adobe and think they’re a rotten company with predatory practices. I also think “AI art” can be harmful to artists and more often than not produces uninteresting flawed garbage at an unacceptable energy cost. Still, when I first heard of Adobe Firefly, my initial reaction was “smart business move, by exclusively using images they have the rights to”.…

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