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Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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I am building something similar to Grammarly as a personal project but quickly realized how hard it is to get data in 2024. Contemplating whether I should just resort to pirated data which is just sad.

To be fair, OpenAI used pirated data

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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Nice job—I'm always a fan of 'bring your own key' (BYOK) approaches. I think there's a lot of potential in using LLMs as virtual copy editors. I do a fair amount of writing and have actually put together several custom GPTs, each with varying degrees of freedom to rewrite the text. The first one acts strictly as a professional editor—it's allowed to fix spelling errors, grammatical issues, word repetition, etc., but…

> I'm always a fan of 'bring your own key' (BYOK) approaches. "Bring your own key" has the same amount of syllables as "BYOK"

If your point is that BYOK is a useless acronym since it has the same number* of syllables, I disagree. Acronyms aren't just for reducing syllable count; they also reduce visual clutter and are easier to read for people who scan text.

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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Yes, but the API at the end is providing the core functionality. Simply swapping out one LLM model for another - let alone by a different company altogether - will completely change the effectiveness and usefulness of the application.

Well, as we see with AI applications like "Leo AI" and "Continue", using a locally run LLM can be fantastic replacements for proprietary offerings.

FWIW I’ve found local models to be essentially useless for coding tasks.

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are several free alternatives to OpenAI that use the same API; which would make it possible to substitute OpenAI for one of those models in this extension. At least on paper. There is an open issue on the github repository requesting something like that. So, it's not as clear cut. The general approach of using LLMs for this is not a bad one; LLMs are pretty good at this stuff.

Yes, but the API at the end is providing the core functionality. Simply swapping out one LLM model for another - let alone by a different company altogether - will completely change the effectiveness and usefulness of the application.

One would hope, that since the problem these models are trying to solve is language modeling, they would eventually converge around similar capabilities

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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They proclaim "privacy-respecting" but all your keystrokes go to OpenAI. Horrific and genuinely upsetting.

Edit: The author replied to another comment that there is an intent to add local AI. If that is the plan, then fix the wording until it can actually be considered privacy-respecting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41579144

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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I am building something similar to Grammarly as a personal project but quickly realized how hard it is to get data in 2024. Contemplating whether I should just resort to pirated data which is just sad.

I’m just going to remind everyone that all these LLMs were also trained on not just pirated, but all out stolen data in organized and resourced assaults on proprietary information/data, not even to mention roughshod ignoring any and all licenses.

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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My older brother who got me into coding learned to code in Assembly. He doesn't really consider most of my work writing in high level languages to be "coding". So maybe there's something here. But if I had to get into the underlying structure, I could . I do wonder whether the same can be said for people who just kludge together a bunch of APIs that produce magical result sets.

> But if I had to get into the underlying structure, I could. How do you propose to get into the underlying structure of the OpenAPI API? Breach their network and steal their code and models? I don't understand what you're arguing.

I think the argument is that stitching things together at a high level is not really coding. A bit of a no true scotsmen perspective. The example is that anything more abstract than assembly is not even true coding, let alone creating a wrapper layer around an LLM

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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They proclaim "privacy-respecting" but all your keystrokes go to OpenAI. Horrific and genuinely upsetting. Edit: The author replied to another comment that there is an intent to add local AI. If that is the plan, then fix the wording until it can actually be considered privacy-respecting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41579144

much ado about nothing, the code is there, edit it and use a local AI.

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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They proclaim "privacy-respecting" but all your keystrokes go to OpenAI. Horrific and genuinely upsetting. Edit: The author replied to another comment that there is an intent to add local AI. If that is the plan, then fix the wording until it can actually be considered privacy-respecting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41579144

much ado about nothing, the code is there, edit it and use a local AI.

But the code as give is said to respect privacy.

Re: Scramble: Open-Source Alternative to Grammarly

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They proclaim "privacy-respecting" but all your keystrokes go to OpenAI. Horrific and genuinely upsetting. Edit: The author replied to another comment that there is an intent to add local AI. If that is the plan, then fix the wording until it can actually be considered privacy-respecting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41579144

settings for opting out of training etc. for OpenAI

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7730893-data-controls-fa...

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