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Re: Data sleuths who spotted research misconduct cleared of defamation

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Post by hughesjj » Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 8:19 PM UTC

protomolecule wrote: post #58

hughesjj wrote: post #39

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I'm at the point where if I see it in a TED talk I'm assuming it's a bullshit grifter

Even if it is a Nobel prize winner like Jennifer Doudna?

I don't know who that is but applying my heuristic, yes, I'd assume so.

It's a heuristic, not a conviction. Generally I don't bother to listen to the TED talks anymore and I'm much more distrustful in my priors than "normal" for anyone I see giving one.

That said it's not like I'm going to dismiss someone with otherwise solid credentials out of hand just because they gave a TED talk, but it still lowers my trust.

Really depends on what you're trying to use the info for. I'm not a researcher so it's not like this affects my day job, and if I was I'd like to think I'd dive into the sources rather than ever just taking someone for their word. That's like the equivalent of copy pasting some code you found on discord into your production app.

Re: Data sleuths who spotted research misconduct cleared of defamation

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Post by Suppafly » Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 9:27 PM UTC

guappa wrote: post #119

Suppafly wrote: post #109

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I don't have a problem with the concept of locally branded TED talks under the TEDx umbrella, but I do have a problem of TEDx talks pretending that they are genuine TED talks. Generally actual TED talks have some quality checks built in, they sometimes allow garbage through, but it's far more rigid than the stuff you see at the TEDx talks.

I presume you just need to pay to get up on stage.

I don't even think you pay. The x ones are just local ones put on random organizations. They may pay something for the tedx branding, but I believe organization itself decides who to let speak.

Re: Data sleuths who spotted research misconduct cleared of defamation

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Post by immibis » Tue, Sep 17, 2024, 1:37 PM UTC

Mkengine wrote: post #80

yard2010 wrote: post #77

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That's scary, really. Having no money for this means you can't afford to fight these criminal crooks. Is this how this works in europe too?

No, where I live (Germany) you usually have a legal insurance to cover this. The costs are around 30€ per month in my case.

Germany also regulates legal fees, so self-insurance is quite reasonable. I've now been involved in two cases (once as plaintiff, once as defendant) and it seems the amount I paid is approximately the same as I would have paid in legal insurance.