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Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by alsetmusic »

polishdude20 wrote: post #43
zeroxfe wrote: post #5

One of the things you quickly discover when you start meditating is how deeply your breath is connected to your mind and body. You can literally detect a thought forming before it does simply by sensing subtle changes in your breathing. You'll also notice how the most trivial thoughts also have a physical manifestation in your body, e.g., mild tension in your eyelids, or a tingling in your abdomen, etc.

This reminds me of how from an early age, when driving with my dad, I could sense when he was about to say something just because he breathing changed for like 3 seconds before he started.

When playing close-up games with one of my cats, I observed that her pupils would dilate about a quarter-second before she struck. This was true 100% of the time after I knew to watch for it.

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by partitioned »

baxtr wrote: post #16
skilled wrote: post #13

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So learn it. It is one of life’s greatest secrets. What the original commenter said is correct, meditation helps you see how thoughts arise in the moment , and with practice you can get to a point where there is very little noise and instead you have a broader view of ideas and your life in general. It is also calming, for your entire system. Learning to monitor and control your breathing consciously is a serious men…

Part of me is resisting because people like you push others to do it. I’m somewhat allergic to that kind of evangelism. Imagine I told you to go to the gym 3x a week or wake up daily at 4:30am. How would you react? It’s a shame since I might even enjoy mediating. Maybe I try it one day.

How do you go through life knowing youre making choices that don't make sense merely because someone told you to do something you had previously wanted to do?

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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kstenerud wrote: post #92
ilc wrote: post #63

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Back when I used "The Relaxation Response" I believe. Taught myself in 7th grade. - Go some place with no distractions. - Lay down, and let your muscles go limp. - Close your eyes, and just focus on your breath. In through the nose, out through the mouth, nice and slowly. I'd often hold at full breath for a few seconds just to let everything settle.. this is not a hurry. - Focus on relaxing your toes, then your feet,…

That seems to be what all the meditation people say. I've done it many times, and it goes like this: Ok, lie down. Relax muscles, sinking down, good breathe... Bored. Bored bored bored OMG this is so boring! Breathe, breathe, try not to think of how boring this is! Bored bored bored oh a bird is chirping. Chirp chirp chirp and gone. Bored bored bored bored bored holy shit when does this end? My fingers are flicking n…

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Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by skilled »

boredemployee wrote: post #15
skilled wrote: post #13

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So learn it. It is one of life’s greatest secrets. What the original commenter said is correct, meditation helps you see how thoughts arise in the moment , and with practice you can get to a point where there is very little noise and instead you have a broader view of ideas and your life in general. It is also calming, for your entire system. Learning to monitor and control your breathing consciously is a serious men…

Do you feel like your professional life is also impacted/improved by it? I know the question is broad but I mean things like level of anxiety, success, financial, etc. Or does it improve your "personal life only"?

It improves you. For example, being able to handle stress better isn’t useful just in personal life but also professional.

In my experience, complete introvert, it helped me enormously with anxiety. But it did take some work, such as working through emotions that I had bottled up. If you stick to your practice then you will work through it.

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by [deleted] »

arghnoname wrote: post #97
kstenerud wrote: post #92

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That seems to be what all the meditation people say. I've done it many times, and it goes like this: Ok, lie down. Relax muscles, sinking down, good breathe... Bored. Bored bored bored OMG this is so boring! Breathe, breathe, try not to think of how boring this is! Bored bored bored oh a bird is chirping. Chirp chirp chirp and gone. Bored bored bored bored bored holy shit when does this end? My fingers are flicking n…

I know, right? You've tried harder than me. I don't think I've tried more than a few times and probably didn't crack 15 minutes! I can clear my thoughts of everything except how bored I am and how long a minute feels with this level of boredom.

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Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by roughly »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #17

Computers are like these magic devices to get us into potentially a fight or flight response with zero physical danger. People’s heart rates rise when they get an email from work. I can’t imagine its good for the health, mating these mental responses that are designed to go along with a physical response with just sedentary behavior instead. And doing it every day all your working life no less. What does this mean in…

Obligatory SMBC: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/lions

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by kstenerud »

prox wrote: post #106
kstenerud wrote: post #92

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That seems to be what all the meditation people say. I've done it many times, and it goes like this: Ok, lie down. Relax muscles, sinking down, good breathe... Bored. Bored bored bored OMG this is so boring! Breathe, breathe, try not to think of how boring this is! Bored bored bored oh a bird is chirping. Chirp chirp chirp and gone. Bored bored bored bored bored holy shit when does this end? My fingers are flicking n…

As someone who taught meditation, this is very common. It’s kind of being like addicted to action (to put it bluntly , sorry for that) Boredom is just one perspective of the mind. For you it might be more beneficial to approach meditation in other ways before sitting still or lie down. For example : when I do indoor climbing I almost get into this meditative state where only the next step matters. Some friends report…

And of course no one ever says this. It's always presented as a "if you do it the right way, and do it enough, then it just works", which is definitely bullshit and even starts to trigger my cult response.

After a month and a half of intensive study that made no difference whatsoever, I'm pretty much done. The marginal benefits don't at all seem worth the extreme effort.

Now I just write instead. It's far more relaxing.

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by prox »

kstenerud wrote: post #128
prox wrote: post #106

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As someone who taught meditation, this is very common. It’s kind of being like addicted to action (to put it bluntly , sorry for that) Boredom is just one perspective of the mind. For you it might be more beneficial to approach meditation in other ways before sitting still or lie down. For example : when I do indoor climbing I almost get into this meditative state where only the next step matters. Some friends report…

And of course no one ever says this. It's always presented as a "if you do it the right way, and do it enough, then it just works", which is definitely bullshit and even starts to trigger my cult response. After a month and a half of intensive study that made no difference whatsoever, I'm pretty much done. The marginal benefits don't at all seem worth the extreme effort. Now I just write instead. It's far more relaxi…

This is absolutely fine, I think of the hundreds of people I taught, I would say 5-10% simply didn’t not catch on at all, no matter my angle of teaching. In those cases I would focus on relaxation above all, like you already gathered yourself.

That said the different pathways to the experience you would call deep meditation is very diverse, and sometimes it’s also a phase/station of life people need to be in. In old texts these things are often described as different temperaments, so I doubt it’s a new thing :D

Re: What happens to our breath when we type, tap, scroll

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Post by ykonstant »

roughly wrote: post #127
kjkjadksj wrote: post #17

Computers are like these magic devices to get us into potentially a fight or flight response with zero physical danger. People’s heart rates rise when they get an email from work. I can’t imagine its good for the health, mating these mental responses that are designed to go along with a physical response with just sedentary behavior instead. And doing it every day all your working life no less. What does this mean in…

Obligatory SMBC: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/lions

Damn.. I wish I could feel good when jogging. At best it is excruciating, at worst one time in Bristol I could not take it anymore and started punching a tree from the frustration until I bled.

I love walking, but it does not do anything significant for my cardiovascular health :(

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