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In Europe people can send money from any bank to any bank through IBAN numbers (your bank account number) Not sure what's taking so long in the states
But no one wants that, bank numbers are too much hassle and typing out 34 digits is error prone. Everyone in Europe also uses Tikkie, Blik whatever else service in other countries.
Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US
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Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US
#122Imagine considering building gemeni into your product knowing full well they will likely sunset it in a year or two or force you into the newest version (or replacement service entirely) vs OpenAI who are supporting and reducing cost on legacy models and service as they release new ones.
The other ugly side of this is the sunsetting of free tiers and plans on many products they do choose to keep. Gsuite free edition is a very good example - early adopters of gsuite for businesses were promised it would remain free, only to find that last year google walked back on that and sunset nearly all the free gsuite accounts, forcing early adopters (and supporters) to pay or get off. Google One is another example - they removed the ability for gsuite accounts to subscribe to Google One individually, and the aftermath of that was "take your data out or upgrade your entire organization to a premium storage tier per user". Zero intention to accommodate or support those users that had been happily paying for that service for years. Icing on the cake: they kept billing for it even after removing access to the service.
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Funny but i have to agree. Hope they dont rename it as Vertex Pay
Like the post above notes, currently: Pay -> Android Pay -> Google Pay -> Google Wallet Maybe: Google Wallet -> Android Wallet -> Wallet -> Pay For a nice ecological circle. With the large predator dying and decomposing back to Pay, and their skin being made into a Wallet, because of its monopolistic pointlessness, and lack of ability to implement even a credit card with a 400,000 customer waitlist. https://cdn.brita…
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How can there not be an app? Don't you need a place to manage your cards?
The app is, and has always been , "Wallet". The cancelled app was a peer payment thing to compete with Venmo, it wasn't about payment handling. Nor was it about NFC payment device handling, which hasn't changed either.
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#125> You can still tap to pay using the Google Wallet app.
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#126Google really needs to start publishing LTS commitments on their new services - or put "beta" tags with disclosures on them - so at least you know how long they're guaranteeing support on a service you are getting committed to. The reputation they're accruing by killing all of these services is really affecting the consideration for new services. That is a very hard to measure and consider data point, but I can say f…
They also started doing telemetry and other things in the language because it is being treated as a product and then what happens if Google loses interest in it?
Would have gone all in on Rust if it just was aesthetically pleasing.
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#127Ironically, Apple just announced P2P payments. Which means this is almost certainly a temporary closure. Google will almost certainly relaunch with a new name, branding, and UX that rides on the coattails of Apple's marketing efforts, but P2P will be coming back. If you're competing with Apple, you can't just not do a thing Apple is doing.
this simply isn't true
there are reasons to compete, like not lose the share of those who find that feature important, or to attack the profitability of that service for your competitor
but there are reasons not to compete, like losing too much money and not impacting your competitor.
This is why Google and Apple as corporations barely look alike at all.
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In the US. Apparently it's doing great in India?
That's confusing. If it's doing really well in at least one large country, surely the effort of keeping the lights on in other countries is reduced?
You can eff around a lot in the tech space (in the US) on AI, privacy, data protection and preservation, reliability, etc., but when you get into the financial sector the rules change. The US's monetary system only works because it's audited out to hell and back to avoid people cheating. And the government is quite empowered to enforce scrutiny on that auditing. Even having a toe in the water in the US market probably opens up Google to massive investigative potential they'd prefer to just avoid.
"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
Re: Google shuts down GPay app and P2P payments in the US
#129Google really needs to start publishing LTS commitments on their new services - or put "beta" tags with disclosures on them - so at least you know how long they're guaranteeing support on a service you are getting committed to. The reputation they're accruing by killing all of these services is really affecting the consideration for new services. That is a very hard to measure and consider data point, but I can say f…
Yes. I'm actually worried about Golang too. Moved to it from Common Lisp but I am worried about the long term liability of it. They also started doing telemetry and other things in the language because it is being treated as a product and then what happens if Google loses interest in it? Would have gone all in on Rust if it just was aesthetically pleasing.
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The app is, and has always been , "Wallet". The cancelled app was a peer payment thing to compete with Venmo, it wasn't about payment handling. Nor was it about NFC payment device handling, which hasn't changed either.
I distinctly remember adding it to the Google Pay app at some point in the past. Checking my phone now, I see that i don't have Google Wallet, and instead there is an unbranded Wallet that may be on my phone? Just, what the actual F? Are those the same thing? If Wallet is a generic thing on my phone, do I want Google Wallet, which Google Pay is telling me I should be using to manage my credit cards, now?