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Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by oceanplexian »

mrguyorama wrote: post #110
WA wrote: post #6

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Yeah but this kind of clickbait actively destroys trust in climate science, because the lunatics think that they get sold a hoax. And actually, the kind of writing is extremely sketchy.

Ah yes, climate deniers just haven't been talked to right! Rather then them choosing to consume a media diet 100% filled with "liberal hoaxes THEY don't want YOU to know about!!!!!"

There’s no such thing as climate deniers.

There are people asking “Hey, maybe there are additional mechanisms in the climate that cause a hot summer that we don’t know about”? and then there are people running around with their head cut off, screaming about how air conditioning and cars and modern technology is the devil incarnate while offering no practical solutions.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by pvaldes »

pvaldes wrote: post #117
pvaldes wrote: post #116

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> Volcanism isn't caused by the climate, it's caused by magma seeping up from the Earth's core through cracks in the mantle. And this cracks (in the crust) are normally created by...

A redistribution in the equilibrium of the forces acting locally over crust and upper mantle called isostasy And breaking the isostasy is directly related with...

The fact that the earth crust is floating in the mantle over a sea of magma

And how much it floats or sinks is directly linked with local gravity...

gravity that is a reflect of the thickness of the crust in that area. Or if we prefer of how much matter is accumulated in that local area.

The thicker, the heavier, so the crust will sink more by the force pointing down that come from its own weight and local gravity in the area will increase

...

Can you see yet where this is leading us, and why I'm 120% sure that climate change WILL come with an increase in volcanic eruptions?

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by mistrial9 »

oceanplexian wrote: post #121
mrguyorama wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, climate deniers just haven't been talked to right! Rather then them choosing to consume a media diet 100% filled with "liberal hoaxes THEY don't want YOU to know about!!!!!"

There’s no such thing as climate deniers. There are people asking “Hey, maybe there are additional mechanisms in the climate that cause a hot summer that we don’t know about”? and then there are people running around with their head cut off, screaming about how air conditioning and cars and modern technology is the devil incarnate while offering no practical solutions.

in 2010 or so in our daily USA city newspaper online-edition, at least three times a week for the entire year, did I respond to "no there is no climate warming" posts -- straight denial.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by xyzelement »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #119
xyzelement wrote: post #118

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// Honestly I'll ride it out but I do feel bad for people with kids. When I came to the US in the 90s, one of my teachers was freaking out about peak oil and about how people shouldn't have kids because that would exacerbate the problem and those kids would have a bad life. Joke's on him I guess. I suspect that at every single point of human history, someone was dismal about something and using it as a reason to not…

Of course, it is obviously inevitable that at some point the doomsayers will be correct (and, to note, there are also many times they've been right in the past - I wouldn't have wanted to be born in Europe just before the Black Death, or in Rome just before it fell, or in 510 or so just to be in prime age during what is often called "the worst year in history" in 536, ...)

Yup however you wouldn't be here today if someone.in your ancestry didn't live through that - assuming your family is from that part of the world

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by quags »

xyzelement wrote: post #118
WeylandYutani wrote: post #101

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It will happen just slow enough for people to get used to it and not panic. And then it will be the new normal. Humans can adapt to terrible situations. Honestly I'll ride it out but I do feel bad for people with kids.

// Honestly I'll ride it out but I do feel bad for people with kids. When I came to the US in the 90s, one of my teachers was freaking out about peak oil and about how people shouldn't have kids because that would exacerbate the problem and those kids would have a bad life. Joke's on him I guess. I suspect that at every single point of human history, someone was dismal about something and using it as a reason to not…

As a 90s kid a remember peak oil. It was taught every where except in one class - economics. The teacher was adamant we would never run out of oil because as the supply dwindled the cost would go up and new oil or other forms of energy would be found. Makes perfect sense now but at the time this was not the norm. Economics ended up being my favorite class. Slightly related he also predicted the internet bubble collapse as I was explaining how I as a teenager was making money on the internet doing nothing in 99 - and his response was that will end because you don’t get money for nothing forever.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by ChatGTP »

oceanplexian wrote: post #121
mrguyorama wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, climate deniers just haven't been talked to right! Rather then them choosing to consume a media diet 100% filled with "liberal hoaxes THEY don't want YOU to know about!!!!!"

There’s no such thing as climate deniers. There are people asking “Hey, maybe there are additional mechanisms in the climate that cause a hot summer that we don’t know about”? and then there are people running around with their head cut off, screaming about how air conditioning and cars and modern technology is the devil incarnate while offering no practical solutions.

No, there really are climate deniers. Paid for it otherwise.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by ChatGTP »

LatteLazy wrote: post #67
refulgentis wrote: post #32

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Gave it about 5 minutes, left me with a strong crackpot energy, even with the disclaimer a little bit in. The length seems to affect the authors ability to make a cohesive argument, even when I set my bias against length aside. I closed the tab after I saw the claim its the only way to explain increased CO2 PPM during [March / April 2020]. Figure 1A is "substantial jump in carbon ppm each year from 15 Feb through 1 A…

It's horrendously long and bad. I tried to read it once. I don't get why people deny climate change, it's not like we're even doing anything to stop it for them to actually complain about...

i think it’s mostly out of fragility, fear and denial.

It’s so much easier to put your head in the sand.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by kaba0 »

xyzelement wrote: post #118
WeylandYutani wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will happen just slow enough for people to get used to it and not panic. And then it will be the new normal. Humans can adapt to terrible situations. Honestly I'll ride it out but I do feel bad for people with kids.

// Honestly I'll ride it out but I do feel bad for people with kids. When I came to the US in the 90s, one of my teachers was freaking out about peak oil and about how people shouldn't have kids because that would exacerbate the problem and those kids would have a bad life. Joke's on him I guess. I suspect that at every single point of human history, someone was dismal about something and using it as a reason to not…

So based on a single datapoint you have concluded that an event can never happen? “It didn’t rain today, so it never will”.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by kaba0 »

mrguyorama wrote: post #109
wing-_-nuts wrote: post #70

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Hyperbole doesn't help anyone. Are things worse than what the IPCC is letting on? Absolutely, yes, but saying everyone's gona die from it is ridiculous. Most reading this will merely be inconvenienced. Some will lose houses to wildfires or hurricanes, but most will swealter a bit more than they would have otherwise. The only people who really have to worry are those in the tropics living with unreliable power grids a…

> Most reading this will merely be inconvenienced. Except: >The only people who really have to worry are those in the tropics living with unreliable power grids and no ac. Which is where millions of people attempting to migrate to countries where living outside isn't a death sentence, and how do you think that will go after the amount of hatred we have seen for the comparatively minimal migration we have currently ex…

Also, you can turn back relatively few migrants, many of whom is only there for a chance at a better life.

Good luck turning away orders of magnitude more, fighting for a chance at life.

Re: Winter temperatures above 35C in South America leave climatologists in disbelief

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Post by kaba0 »

irrational wrote: post #99
gonzo41 wrote: post #50

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Read up on 35 wet bulb night time temperatures.

Yeah, but, I’m reading this and that won’t be an issue where I live. So it must be something else that will kill everyone reading this decades earlier.

What about a war for the place where you live? Surely, people currently in places that will become uninhabitable got to live in one of those places where they can, like yours.
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