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Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

#121

This is just code for outsourcing. Americans who are all-in on remote work should recognize this.

Thar FUD was tired even before the pandemic, let alone when is being used as an illogical back-to-the-office prod. My attitude towards outsourcing at this point is put up or shut up. Nobody would be doing any threatening if there was anything actually there. We already have heard all of the tales of disastrous failed outsourcing attempts and mediocrity in "success".

Yeah except this time we are outsourcing to AI.

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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Let's not forget that the Airbnb CEO has vested interest in expansion of remote work. This means more digital nomads and folks who travel to work from anywhere, which benefits the Airbnb Network.

At least they put their money where their mouth is. I for one have seen a lot of the productivity hits dissipate with the advent of remote work. It's at the expense of basic human psychology though. You really can't hire jerks, management cannot be "game players", and meetings need to be minimal and ad hoc. Remote work companies avoiding those 3 things eat in person companies lunch every day of the week as far as hou…

Name such a company.

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

#123

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Huh? You heat your home when you're not home?

Yes. I don't like frozen pipes. Heating can't be shut off during winter.

Obviously this is highly dependent on where you live…which gets back to my original point that there are so many variables it probably isn’t possible to declare one option better for the environment. Fwiw, in the UK I actively turn heat on and off depending on when it’s needed. It would never, ever, be on when I’m out, unless I was going out of town for a while and had to consider things like frozen pipes.

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

#124

This is just code for outsourcing. Americans who are all-in on remote work should recognize this.

Thar FUD was tired even before the pandemic, let alone when is being used as an illogical back-to-the-office prod. My attitude towards outsourcing at this point is put up or shut up. Nobody would be doing any threatening if there was anything actually there. We already have heard all of the tales of disastrous failed outsourcing attempts and mediocrity in "success".

It’s very different to outsource to a giant Indian consulting firm vs offshoring to a network of people working from home across Western Europe.

The former is challenging and not likely to succeed in many scenarios. The latter is now the default playbook at places I work

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

#125

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Good catch. I wasn’t aware of the difference in terminology. From a neoliberal globalist perspective, I am happy with more globalization. I just think it’s strange that people tout remote work as shifting power toward employees and away from management, when in reality it’s the opposite.

It may be true, but as of now there's a lot of arbitrage to go around for those who earn a hcol wage and move to mcol or lcol areas.

Lcol areas like most of Western Europe and South America!

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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post #74

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> Airbnb, Inc. can hire employees in states where we have registered entities. Currently, employees cannot be located/live in: Alaska, Nebraska, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Alabama, Mississippi, and Delaware. It seems entirely reasonable to create state entities in a late-binding fashion, only after you find an employee or other reason requiring the creation of an entity and all the recurring paperwork/expense associate…

Even though there is, today, half a dozen startups dedicated to solving just that (Deel comes to mind), yes, it definitely is reasonable. I just don’t appreciate people sanctimoniously dishing out lessons all while not applying what they, unprompted, decided to preach.

You are manufacturing your own outrage.

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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> In other words, how do we (the employer) ensure our employees aren't moonlighting on our team and only giving the minimum level of effort with us? The tools for properly determining this are no different remote vs in an office at least for IT work. Most dev teams work in sprints and each sprint comes with a commitment from each developer. It is very noticeable even in remote work if a developer is either: - Not mak…

> The tools for properly determining this... This isn't a logically-evaluate-output scenario. It's low-trust between employee and employer. The bullet points listed are highlighting situations where someone isn't delivering. What do you do if they ARE delivering, but not delivering as much as they could be? The "Not making a reasonably sized commitment" is implicitly an assessment of trust in someone. (I'm trying to…

Why accept that expectation in our industry? The ability for employers to require it is negotiated, not a natural law

Re: Brian Chesky: Ability to hire from anywhere is more valuable than in-office work

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If it can’t be measured does it matter ?

Of course.

If it matters it must be measured

If you are a high productivity person why stay at a place that can’t measure it

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