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Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by echelon »

resource0x wrote: post #98
echelon wrote: post #80

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Their sleeping on this is your opportunity. Build something, scale it, raise capital. The losers will wish they'd done the same. I honestly think this is the biggest evolution of our field in our lifetimes (I was here for early web). I'm so excited and have already been building incredible stuff, and I'm saying that as someone who has had a decent career at top employers.

Build something, pump it, raise capital, buy a house in Bahamas, declare bankruptcy, hire lawyers and hope for the best. :-)

Does nobody believe in anything anymore?

Grumpy and cynical takes everywhere you look.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by wraptile »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #23

Appreciate the effort but these demos have really quickly become so boring. If you can design an entire website with the AI tools, it appears its almost certainly a website you don't need to create in the first place. Either it has already essentially been made by somebody who actually understood and cared about the code, or it's such a trivial mix of stuff you're better off making a squarespace site or whatever. At…

Because new-developer market is huge. There are more beginner/intermediate developers than seniors by a large margin. It gets the clicks.

As an anecdote our technical blogs covering vital industry techniques and news get like 10% of the readers of our introduction blogs do. I'd imagine the best selling progamming books are the ones aimed at beginners too.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by Nevermark »

shock-value wrote: post #113
Nevermark wrote: post #97

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You are comparing systems that generated completion text based on statistics and correlation with a system that now models actual complex functional relationships between millions of concepts, not just series of letters or words. The difference is staggering. It comes about because of the insane level of computational iterations (that are not required for normal statistical completion) mapping vast numbers of terabyt…

It's modeling patterns found across the massive corpus of textual training input it has seen -- not the true concepts related by the words as humans understand them. If you don't believe me then ask ChatGPT some bespoke geometry-related brain teasers and see how far it gets. I want to be clear that the successful scale-up of this training and inference methodology is nonetheless a massive achievement -- but it is inh…

> [...] no way indicative of a system that exudes agency or deliberative thought, nor one that "understands" or models the world as a human would.

Certainly not - its architecture doesn't model ours. But it has taken a huge step forward in our direction in terms of capabilities, from early to late 2022.

As its reasoning gets better, simply a conversation with itself could become a kind of deliberative thought.

Also, as more data modalities are combined, text with video and audio, human generated and recordings of the natural world, etc., more systematic inclusion of math, its intuition about solving bespoke geometry problems, and other kinds of problems, are likely to improve.

Framing a problem is a lot of the solving of a problem. And we frame geometry with a sensory driven understanding of geometry that the current ChatGPT isn't being given.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by paxys »

ilaksh wrote: post #85
paxys wrote: post #25

While such examples are no doubt impressive, I haven't seen these AI tools do anything that couldn't otherwise be achieved by following a simple online tutorial. Bootstrap a fresh project, write hello world or fizzbuzz-equivalent code in a random programming language, generate a landing page...all of these tasks have long been commodified and aren't exactly worth big money. So I'm not scared for my job just yet . "Bu…

That's not true about self driving research plateauing. Tesla, Waymo and Cruise have all made significant progress in the last five years. What other categories of high tech reached their absolute peak right when everyone started to notice them? We can extrapolate because there are clear trends. And a long history of inventing new things when we hit a bottleneck. It's like someone looking at a car in the early 1900s…

> What other categories of high tech reached their absolute peak right when everyone started to notice them?

Just in the last decade – crypto/blockchain/web3, VR/AR, metaverse, smart glasses, 3D TVs, foldable phones, modular phones, chatbots, hyperloop, package delivery robots/drones.

Every single one of these areas had all the top tech talent behind it, billions in VC funding, flashy demos and outsized public hype, but ultimately they all fizzled out due to technology barriers or lack of demand or a real use case.

Actual world-changing innovations may seem obvious in hindsight, but every grand prediction and bet about the future of tech is a lot more likely to fail than succeed.

> It's like someone looking at a car in the early 1900s and saying "this may be the peak of automotive technology, who knows".

And that may have been a fair assessment for the time without the benefit of a crystal ball. Someone else who said the same thing when looking at blimps was 100% correct. In fact if you asked people of that time where the future of transportation would go, a large majority would have said "flying cars", because that was the obvious technological evolution at the time just as self driving tech is for us right now.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by throwaway290 »

ux-app wrote: post #71
shock-value wrote: post #67

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The advancement with these LLMs lies in the fact that they can effectively learn to recognize patterns within “large-ish” input text sequences and probabilistically generate a likely next word given those patterns. It’s a genuine advancement. However it is still just pattern matching. And describing anything it’s doing as “behavior” is a real stretch given that it is a feed-forward network that does not incorporate a…

>However it is still just pattern matching the visual cortex in your brain is also "just a pattern matching" system. guess it's not very impressive by your standard. This[1] isn't my example (it's from another HN user), but if you work as a programmer and you're not absolutely jaw on the floor astonished by this example then I don't know what to say. Explaining[2] the emergent behaviour is literally cutting edge rese…

> the visual cortex in your brain is also "just a pattern matching" system

I can think and a pattern matching system can't.

> you're not absolutely jaw on the floor

Not at all. Autocomplete will autocomplete.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by throwaway290 »

ux-app wrote: post #45
slimebot80 wrote: post #32

OK somehow I've become blasé with text and image generation. (I shouldn't be, but hey) What impressed me was the possibility you used AI to produce a responsive HTML structure and somehow assembled all the assets..... but from what I can tell this was still done manually, even if using a template. It's funny how I am no longer amazed by these generated images. They are amazing. Yet I am still skeptical AI can assembl…

>Yet I am still skeptical AI can assemble assets and html from scratch :) the skepticism and the general dismissive tone on HN baffles me. you're talking to a computer in English ffs and it not only understands you, it goes away and does useful work. literal science fiction 5 years ago, and now it's somehow: yawn ???? talk about hard to impress!

If it's remarkable you're easily impressed or you don't know about its shortcomings.

Likely it'll remain an engine for parlor tricks and infinite "demos" for foreseeable future, the many critical mistakes it makes make it impractical (you can't trust any information it outputs without verifying yourself it's not a hallucination again). After all the more text you autocomplete, the more text you need to check.

You're making it sound as if it's something comparable to the development of the Internet in its impact.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by gcanyon »

Towaway69 wrote: post #114
ilaksh wrote: post #85

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That's not true about self driving research plateauing. Tesla, Waymo and Cruise have all made significant progress in the last five years. What other categories of high tech reached their absolute peak right when everyone started to notice them? We can extrapolate because there are clear trends. And a long history of inventing new things when we hit a bottleneck. It's like someone looking at a car in the early 1900s…

Ironically cars have basically not changed since the 1900s: 4 wheels, a steering wheel and a polluting oil-based engine. Sure we're now (100 years later) moving to computer steering and rare-earth elements batteries but the 4 wheels remain! We have peaks in technology, then tend to profit before the innovation restarts - when profits sink.

What would you use to replace the 4 wheels?

To the point, cars still have 4 wheels for the same reason wagons had four wheels before cars existed: 3 wheels are much less stable, 5 adds significant complexity, and nothing other than wheels would be as efficient.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by simple-thoughts »

stevenhuang wrote: post #48
krainboltgreene wrote: post #34

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You could have written an incredibly similar comment but for the blockchain 6 years ago. Down to the tone and verbiage.

I find it so funny there are actually people here that seriously cannot see the gulf of utility that separates LLMs and blockchains. What a crazy world we're in.

For some people, access to decentralized financial products can be a matter of life or death - they live in jurisdictions with limited property rights, and loss of property can translate to lack of food, medicine, and housing.

LLMs mostly provide a way for companies to increase their efficiency. Currently anything an LLM can do a staff creative worker in the correct field can do.

Re: Creating a landing page using AI tools and no code

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Post by guax »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #64
ux-app wrote: post #42

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for every programmer working on cutting edge creative/systems/math heavy code there are 1000 gluing APIs and tapping out glorified CRUD apps. let's not pretend it's otherwise.

I think we should generate less CRUD, competing standards, endless new languages, frameworks, databases, Linux distros, and so on. I don't see why we should automate this. We could get far greater gains in productivity by less duplicated effort.

And thus, onde more standard is born.
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