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World Cup Daily, Day 25

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Honestly, as much as I’d like to lean into the conspiracy theories here, I think this post highlights the likely cause of his death. Won’t stop people from speculating though.

Couldn't his feeling unwell (potential heart attack?) be caused by poison? This doesn't necessarily contradict the conspiracy theory

Sure, everyone could be poisoned. It's not useful to think in terms of non-falsifiable hypotheses to further a narrative.

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Or: "Even a single preventable death on a job site is one too many. We have contacted his family, made all the arrangements for a dignified flight home, memorial service and created a financial fund to compensate the family for his loss. It's the least we could do."

And we will do our best to improve safety around the workplace and avoid these deaths, because we value the life of our immigrant workers as much as that of our citizens.

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It just happened, probably too early to come to any conclusions. I think the concern is that Wahl seems to have been a generally healthy person (although recently been feeling sick, according to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33931689 ), wrote a critical article about a famously hard government, received a bunch of death threats and the day after drops dead. Again, too early to reach any conclusions, I guess we…

Sometimes I worry the world will end because nice people are so accommodating and understanding of evil.

"We know they are lying. They know they are lying. They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie."

— (probably not) Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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So people can only criticize one another from a position of complete purity and innocence? Where exactly do you think that’ll get us?

No I want equal coverage, no hypocrites.

There was FAR more oppositional coverage of the War in Iraq than there has been about the WC.

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Facts, also don’t forget about Ukraine too. Or even American lives for that matter, eg astounding number of people dying of fentanyl, or the fact there are more teenagers homeless in LA than homeless people with mental health problems.

Notoriously no one is talking about, demanding action, or actually acting any of these things

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Not really a story I have followed but the numbers I see after a quick search suggest this is another bullshit story. This website (first result on google, I don't particularly vouch for it [1]) suggests in 2020, 340 workers died every day from hazardous working conditions in the US. If you scale it to the population of Qatar, that's about 3 per day, or 20 per week. The guardian claims 12 migrant workers died per wee…

The next stat line says “4,764 workers were killed on the job in the United States.” in 2020. I’m not sure we’re given clarity here - rhetorically, ok, fine, but the math doesn’t line up quite this way.

"4,764 from traumatic injuries, and an estimated 120,000 from occupational diseases"

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Maybe you think that, but I’m sure many people have basic human empathy at the end of the day. Yes statistically many people die on the job in many countries but every one is still a tragedy. You can think that and be running a large organization. I feel like many conservative thinkers believe that it’s all “fake” and just PR. But human empathy is a real thing.

Look at your leaders. What percentage do you think operate from sincere va feigned or politically beneficial empathy? Is it a majority? At what level of government do you think it becomes a majority or minority?

Moving the goalposts a lot here. I think that when confronted with a meaningless death directly most will feel empathy.

I’m sure a lot of politicians will feel like it’s unfair to pin some event on them, and that might be their base reaction. But this is not a mutually exclusive thing! People can be mad about political messaging and still feel something about people dead while building a soccer stadium of all things.

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#129

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Is there a suggested causal link here…?

It just happened, probably too early to come to any conclusions. I think the concern is that Wahl seems to have been a generally healthy person (although recently been feeling sick, according to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33931689 ), wrote a critical article about a famously hard government, received a bunch of death threats and the day after drops dead. Again, too early to reach any conclusions, I guess we…

He was receiving death threats for the rainbow shirts he was wearing too.

"Eric Wahl said his brother had received death threats while in Qatar because of the rainbow shirt and his continued reporting on FIFA and the Qatari government."

His brother is on Twitter saying that he did not die of natural causes.

https://twitter.com/ziplamak/status/1601373769326792705

Re: World Cup Daily, Day 25

#130
post #42

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Maybe you think that, but I’m sure many people have basic human empathy at the end of the day. Yes statistically many people die on the job in many countries but every one is still a tragedy. You can think that and be running a large organization. I feel like many conservative thinkers believe that it’s all “fake” and just PR. But human empathy is a real thing.

About two people die every second. I think it's essential for mental health to find a way to not grieve these strangers!

I think that people dying for a football stadium, then having their death be compared to dying in their sleep (a luxury for people in a lot of dangerous work) should generate some emotion.

What’s the point of anything if we’re going to turn every person into a number? We can’t care about everything all the time, but if we do care about something, it’s probably for valid reasons.

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