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Starting a food co-op: Year 1

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Re: Starting a food co-op: Year 1

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Post by wonderwonder »

zzzeek wrote: post #117
wonderwonder wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear what you are saying but again, being "anti-racist" is not a concern of mine. I am not a racist and generally treat everyone I meet the same. I don't have any intention of making "Anti-racism" a part of my personality or understanding it because it is very low on my list of concerns. People are people. They get hired to do a job, I chat with them superficially about what they did during the weekend and that's i…

Which goes back to the original point that you probably would not like belonging to a food coop very much.

lol, fair point

Re: Starting a food co-op: Year 1

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Post by topaz0 »

forgotmypw17 wrote: post #95
neilv wrote: post #2

This seems to be in the Boston, Mass., area. Some related local background is that there was the Harvest Co-op chain until a few years ago: https://www.boston.com/food/food/2018/10/04/harvest-co-op-ma... There's also the Market Basket for-profit regional chain, where employees and customers successfully stood up against some family business maneuvers to force out the head, and it's once again generally well-regarded…

I was able to figure out it's in the Boston area by the 617 area code and the name, but after spending 5 minutes looking for its actual location, I still can't find it. It doesn't seem to be on the website, and it's not on Google Maps either. Does anyone know where this is actually located?

If you go to the FAQ, they say that they are likely several years from opening.

Re: Starting a food co-op: Year 1

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Post by socialismisok »

davidjfelix wrote: post #40
the_lonely_road wrote: post #38

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What made it a hassle? I abandoned Ember for React even though I liked the former a lot more because the community was tiny meaning there were few resources and it was practically impossible to hire anyone that could hit the ground running. It turned out to be a great decision. I have set up a number of LLCs over the years and it’s dead simple, but I know nothing about setting up a co op. Seems like it shouldn’t be m…

It depends a lot on the state that one resides (or incorporates) in. With LLCs they mostly all follow the same pattern and if you're the sole owner they can be done without charter, initial incorporation docs, etc. With coops, some states follow uniform common law LCA (limited cooperative association) laws and allow worker-owned coops pretty easily (although lawyers are generally less familiar as they're rarer). Othe…

Pretty much this. No one is familiar with any of this stuff, so you have to navigate off the golden path.

Re: Starting a food co-op: Year 1

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Post by zzzeek »

Veelox wrote: post #118
zzzeek wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this article didn't seem to have anything about "race" in it except for a little box at the bottom. DEI is very important for basically any organization that doesn't want to be known as a bunch of exclusionary jerks. "Race", even though it's a only a social construct with no link to science in any way, is a big deal because people were enslaved for 300 years based on "race". After the Civil War, "race" was still used…

>"Race", even though it's a only a social construct with no link to science in any way, Can you flesh out this thought a little more? My first reading of this makes me think your trying to say race has no basis in scientific fact but that doesn't make any sense to me. What do you mean?

start with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism

or for something less wordy

https://www.vox.com/2014/10/10/6943461/race-social-construct...

Re: Starting a food co-op: Year 1

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Post by selimthegrim »

wonderwonder wrote: post #112
zzzeek wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

throughout your "rant" as you call it, and your concerns and personal experiences, one theme stands out that you are very concerned and fixated about how all of this is making you feel. I would propose that likely the first step in understanding anti-racist practices and attitudes is learning to think about how others feel about their experiences. "dont be racist" is not really the core of the problem, it's "listen t…

I hear what you are saying but again, being "anti-racist" is not a concern of mine. I am not a racist and generally treat everyone I meet the same. I don't have any intention of making "Anti-racism" a part of my personality or understanding it because it is very low on my list of concerns. People are people. They get hired to do a job, I chat with them superficially about what they did during the weekend and that's i…

Can someone decide how not to be anti-Semitic on their own?

Re: Starting a food co-op: Year 1

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Post by sure_about_that »

wonderwonder wrote: post #119
sure_about_that wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You asked why there was an eighth principle and that is because it was adopted by credit unions [1]. It doesn’t only apply to black people. So you haven’t actually asked a black person if they are offended by it. It is in fact you who are offended by it. Makes much more sense. What exactly is DeSantis’s “stance on this”? I know he championed a bunch of laws on what teachers can do/say, and which books are acceptable…

Of course its me that's offended by it, I don't think I was hiding it. With that said, I'm jewish, we've kind of had our own rough go of it. Good part of my family died in the holocaust and the Russian Pogroms. I had stones thrown at me as a child on 2 occasions because I was Jewish. In elementary school I had to sit outside in the open hallway rain or shine while the christian kids prayed (I'm not from America origi…

My kids are also Jewish, from my wife’s side. It is interesting to hear the comments of people when they have no idea.

Voting for split representation is a perfectly reasonable approach. I personally think DeSantis is pro-power, not pro-freedom. His stunt with asylum-seeking migrants is a great example. Also the fact that Florida doesn’t have things like legal weed, legal sports betting, legal abortion, and more.

Re: Starting a food co-op: Year 1

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Post by [deleted] »

zzzeek wrote: post #104
wonderwonder wrote: post #103

I don't get it. It said nothing about actually providing food. At what point do people grow or get produce? Also why does race have to be brought into everything? Why have the 8th principal? Looking at your board members all of you are white. All of your support staff is white. Why cant it be just a group of not racist people building a co-op, where all are welcome? Why does everything have to push race? Its exhausti…

this article didn't seem to have anything about "race" in it except for a little box at the bottom. DEI is very important for basically any organization that doesn't want to be known as a bunch of exclusionary jerks. "Race", even though it's a only a social construct with no link to science in any way, is a big deal because people were enslaved for 300 years based on "race". After the Civil War, "race" was still used…

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Re: Starting a food co-op: Year 1

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Post by wonderwonder »

selimthegrim wrote: post #126
wonderwonder wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear what you are saying but again, being "anti-racist" is not a concern of mine. I am not a racist and generally treat everyone I meet the same. I don't have any intention of making "Anti-racism" a part of my personality or understanding it because it is very low on my list of concerns. People are people. They get hired to do a job, I chat with them superficially about what they did during the weekend and that's i…

Can someone decide how not to be anti-Semitic on their own?

Of course, why not?

Re: Starting a food co-op: Year 1

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Post by [deleted] »

sure_about_that wrote: post #127
wonderwonder wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course its me that's offended by it, I don't think I was hiding it. With that said, I'm jewish, we've kind of had our own rough go of it. Good part of my family died in the holocaust and the Russian Pogroms. I had stones thrown at me as a child on 2 occasions because I was Jewish. In elementary school I had to sit outside in the open hallway rain or shine while the christian kids prayed (I'm not from America origi…

My kids are also Jewish, from my wife’s side. It is interesting to hear the comments of people when they have no idea. Voting for split representation is a perfectly reasonable approach. I personally think DeSantis is pro-power, not pro-freedom. His stunt with asylum-seeking migrants is a great example. Also the fact that Florida doesn’t have things like legal weed, legal sports betting, legal abortion, and more.

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