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Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by bozhark »

flyinglizard wrote: post #94
fredsmith219 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree 100%. They burst into the tech scene with claims that were clearly fraudulent. They have demonstrated that they have no problem lying, so why would anyone support them? https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2016/12/09/magic_leap_neithe...

It’s a completely different group of people now. Nearly no one from the original management remained in Magic Leap, so I don’t think it’s fair to judge them by the actions of their predecessors.

Management? What about engineers?!

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by bozhark »

spoonjim wrote: post #98
WaxProlix wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.

If you think a Simula One VR is a substitute for a Magic Leap you probably should be reading more and commenting less about this market.

Magic Leap is vaporware.

Got anything ‘real’ to compare it to?

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by darepublic »

WaxProlix wrote: post #67
IHLayman wrote: post #8

You are looking for the price like I was, and many pages are trying to snare you onto “speak to a specialist” links. Let me spare you the trouble, as you are looking for this page: https://www.insight.com/en_US/shop/partner/magic-leap/store.... If you’d rather not click (and I totally understand) let me tell you that the Leap 2 costs between $3200 for the base model and up to $5000 for the enterprise model, which giv…

At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.

Portable VR is not the same as AR though right? All notes on quality aside

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by xaedes »

neximo64 wrote: post #70

The move from B2C to B2B is curious, it seems like the reason is B2C didn't quite have product market fit. It seems though the more realistic reason was they couldn't actually deliver on time.

With B2B you don't necessarily need to convince the final users of the product.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by jscheel »

6stringmerc wrote: post #35
jscheel wrote: post #34

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Absolutely, hence me saying "undeserved". Here's the exchange, hopefully you can see where I clarified that I wasn't accusing him of fraud: https://twitter.com/jscheel/status/1393781004188389379

Magic Leap was a lot closer to the flying car that only had the one prototype but seemingly kept raising tons of cash…

I remember reading about Moller in the 90s, thinking “wow the future is gonna be amazing.”

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by flyinglizard »

bozhark wrote: post #121
flyinglizard wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a completely different group of people now. Nearly no one from the original management remained in Magic Leap, so I don’t think it’s fair to judge them by the actions of their predecessors.

Management? What about engineers?!

Many left, others were laid off. Some remain. But they had some world class engineering talent (like in their optics - real domain experts they brought from other places and industries). The goals were unrealistic, the product was out of touch with the market (lots of money raised is going to do that 9/10 times), the top management were professional corporate creatures (not in a good sense). But some of the engineers were very good - just sent on the wrong mission.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by WaxProlix »

darepublic wrote: post #123
WaxProlix wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At $3200 you can just get a Simula One VR[1], which will do everything and more, with less bullshit, and an eye to real usability. I can't understand getting a Magic Leap anything for any amount of money, let alone thousands. They've outed themselves as absolute grifters lol. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3uN7d51Cco for the kinda cringe show video. But the tech is real and there.

Portable VR is not the same as AR though right? All notes on quality aside

It has a passthrough and - I think - augment mode.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by duped »

flyinglizard wrote: post #94
fredsmith219 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree 100%. They burst into the tech scene with claims that were clearly fraudulent. They have demonstrated that they have no problem lying, so why would anyone support them? https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2016/12/09/magic_leap_neithe...

It’s a completely different group of people now. Nearly no one from the original management remained in Magic Leap, so I don’t think it’s fair to judge them by the actions of their predecessors.

Some of the worst engineers I've known wound up there (and are still there). Not necessarily bad people, just borderline frauds. I don't trust their organization to do much credible work as a result.

Re: Magic Leap 2: The most immersive AR platform for enterprise

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Post by aledalgrande »

foobiekr wrote: post #90
khazhoux wrote: post #50

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You are giving the CEO way too much credit . I followed the story from the beginning, and from the beginning it was clear he was lying through his teeth about what the technology was capable of. With his "my amazing technology is so advanced, I can't even secretly tell you how secretly we are secretly keeping the technology advances secret." Pure bullshit, and I'm glad to see someone like that fail. Bullshitters erod…

There's this amazing robot you might be interested in.

Does it squeeze juice?
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