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OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Is there something like StreetComplete for iOS?

There are few editors for iOS, but all quite good. Try Every Door ( https://apps.apple.com/app/every-door/id1621945342 ) and Go Map ( https://apps.apple.com/app/id592990211 ).

Every Door is by Zverik, and it’s very good!

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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I do not oppose. But personally, I have a ton of fun just mapping for the sake of it. Seeing my contributions rendered is a satisfaction.

Same here. I think mapping is fun and it should be done by people who love doing it. Doing it because you get a pair of socks or some smiley clippy character telling you something cute is very different.

No it's not. We're talking about a silly pair of socks or a quirky avatar message, not, y'know, actual amounts of money. You can't pay rent or buy food or taxes with a pair of socks. Someone doing mapping for free, with the hopes of getting a pair of socks is much closer to this hypothetical mapping purist than a 3rd party contractor that doesn't care about cartography and is just doing it for the paycheck.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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The last time I submitted a few months worth of my travels at once after doing a hundred or so of these challenges/questions and got a bunch of notifications lambasting me for not updating the moment I did instead of later. Honestly didn't realise you had to manually submit, thought it just happened automatically. Was a really rude intro to the community and reminded me a lot of SO or Wikipedia with its gatekeeping.…

It does happen automatically, pretty sure it's always worked that way. Maybe you experienced a bug? > The user's answer is automatically processed and uploaded directly into the OSM database. https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/ Of course uploading a few months of changes all at once is going to cause issues, naturally some will conflict with other changes that have been made in the meantime.

There is a setting that disables autoupload. Some people may want to minimise the number of edits made from their account, and some people may not want to leave a trace of locations they've visited together with exact timestamp they've been there.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Google Maps app is great, lets you gain points by adding information & photos & reviews etc. They even send you a free bespoke pair of socks or a badge if you're active enough. So fun to add photos and then see how many views they get (I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - m…

Web3 is on it https://hivemapper.com/

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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sorry but that is simply not true... I think there are areas where it can be, probably those more remote, or where there are less contributors but at least in western europe, the map is built and maintained by individuals like me. Maybe helped with external datas but still carefully handpicked and integrated by individuals

The statement is at least partly true. Nearly all big corporations and many smaller ones have people on the payroll contributing to OSM. And there are entire countries where paid / commercial editing makes up the majority of contributions to OSM. See this post from last year that breaks it down: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Jennings%20Anderson/diary... .

Hang on... I can get paid to edit OSM instead of just doing it for fun? Where do we find those jobs?

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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> OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Take a look at StreetComplete [1]. It is gamification of updates to OSM. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplet...

This thing is so much fun! I love wandering around a new area and filling in the details. One thing I wish it had was the ability to add an entirely new building. I'm currently living in a town that is experiencing massive growth and I'll often see a structure that's still a vacant lot on osm, and I don't think you can add it with StreetComplete.

The easiest thing to do for such cases is to add a note, perhaps with a picture of the building if you're comfortable.

There must be folk who dedicate their time to searching the OSM database for unresolved notes, because whenever I leave a note on StreetComplete mentioning an inaccuracy (e.g: a path where there isn't actually one, a driveway marked incorrectly as a road, etc.) I get an email alert a few days later notifying me that the note has been resolved - often by someone who lives in an entirely different country (and who can use the information I provide in the note plus the satellite imagery to resolve the note).

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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> OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Take a look at StreetComplete [1]. It is gamification of updates to OSM. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplet...

Thanks for the reference! I've just installed StreetComplete, and expect it should provide a good excuse to take some walks around the neighborhood.

This is exactly what I have found! StreetComplete encourages me not only to take regular walks, but also to explore new areas local to me that I haven't previously visited (since, after a while, you need to move to a new area to find 'quests' that you haven't already completed).

I have discovered lots of places in my local area thanks to StreetComplete!

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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post #71

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I held the same negative opinion, until about 2018. Then I thought "enough is enough" and started contributing in my area. This in the hope and expectation that other area's will have volunteers working who started out with the same emotion in a somewhat catalysing effect (is that a word?). Now I am quite proud of maintaining shops and bars in my city, at least I think I am the person who updates those the most :)

Is this a manual process, generally? I was wondering if someone(s) consume data feeds from local govts. Stuff like permitting, licensing, change-of-address. I ask because it seems that I'll idly spot a business, while driving around, that I'm sure didn't turn up in a search. (I mostly use Apple Maps.) Then I thought "surely adding new listings could be automated". My next thought was "well, just because it's in the d…

Almost everything is manual unless an import for an area is happening. Imports require a bunch of documentation and notifications before the data gets pulled in. The data is typically for building and addresses from the government.

Adding together OSM’s rules are stacked against imports, the vocal anti import contingent and specialized software knowledge needed means that few imports happen.

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