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OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by beej71 »

Semaphor wrote: post #32
betamaxthetape wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a side-by-side comparison of OSM data from 2012 (left) and the current OSM data. In my local area the difference is massive: the 2012 data has some roads but that's about it, no buildings, house numbers, etc. That's all present on the 2022 version (disclaimer: partly because I spent several months walking around mapping things with the StreetComplete app [1]). For me it isn't down, just taking a very long time…

I can’t open it, but here it’s the opposite :( OSM used to be amazing, better than google, now it’s horribly outdated. It shows several stores in my street that have closed over 6 years ago. I actually found StreetComplete a few days ago and have started fixing issues, at least for my neighborhood.

Well done on fixing those issues. I've been updating stores in my area, too.

And OSM is the only map that shows the new roundabouts near my house. I just put them in yesterday after riding my bicycle around them several times to get a track.

We are OSM! If it has shortcomings, we've no one to blame but ourselves.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by shakow »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #45
aaomidi wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s security theater.

I've found that about 80% of the bullshit my search engine crawler finds is on Russian and Chinese IPs (especially the Alibaba Cloud). Not that there isn't legitimate content, but there seems to be very little effort put toward policing the bad as long as it primarily targets a western demographic. This is not by any means a new development.

Don't forget the Bayes theorem: lot of crap comes from ru/cn domains most ru/cn domains are crap.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by moffkalast »

curiousfab wrote: post #10
laurent123456 wrote: post #9

It's down. What is it supposed to show?

HN hug of death :( It showed/shows a side-by-side view of Open Street Map 2012 vs. 2022. See https://shtosm.ru/all/verni-mne-moy-2012/ (or translated: https://shtosm-ru.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x... )

I still don't quite see what the point is, both pictures seem very similar in terms of detail density, but with slightly different proportions.

OSM editing is usually done over satelite imagery these days, so I would imagine the old one must've been very far off in some areas.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by [deleted] »

benbristow wrote: post #37

OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Google Maps app is great, lets you gain points by adding information & photos & reviews etc. They even send you a free bespoke pair of socks or a badge if you're active enough. So fun to add photos and then see how many views they get (I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - m…

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Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by moffkalast »

trillic wrote: post #16
cinntaile wrote: post #11

OSM doesn't have a layer with just satelite images like Google maps has, does there exist any alternative here?

MapTiler released a ~500 GB high res dataset. Not sure on the licensing but I believe it can be used for free with attribution if self-hosting. https://data.maptiler.com/downloads/dataset/satellite-2021/#...

> The tiles are generated on zoom levels 0-13.

That's like 20 m per pixel at its highest zoom, completely useless for most things.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by karussell »

uwagar wrote: post #43

how do i turn on english names for places that are labeled in local language?

It is not possible with raster tiles, but the OSM database might still have the name in English.

(You can have a look into vector tiles like from MapTiler or their open source project openmaptiles.org)

I just found this example (has nothing to do with openmaptiles as far I can see): https://js.protomaps.com/examples/multi_language.html

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by eMerzh »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #47
benbristow wrote: post #37

OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Google Maps app is great, lets you gain points by adding information & photos & reviews etc. They even send you a free bespoke pair of socks or a badge if you're active enough. So fun to add photos and then see how many views they get (I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - m…

Most of the contributions to OSM are commercial now. Most of the big names except from Google have people working on improving the maps.

sorry but that is simply not true... I think there are areas where it can be, probably those more remote, or where there are less contributors but at least in western europe, the map is built and maintained by individuals like me. Maybe helped with external datas but still carefully handpicked and integrated by individuals

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by dewey »

alt227 wrote: post #46
benbristow wrote: post #37

OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Google Maps app is great, lets you gain points by adding information & photos & reviews etc. They even send you a free bespoke pair of socks or a badge if you're active enough. So fun to add photos and then see how many views they get (I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - m…

This is the main thing I hate about google maps. I refuse to do free work for google in return for 'fun'.

I also want to hate it, but in reality I recently uploaded my first picture and then get monthly updates on how many hundreds of people have seen it and I have to admit the gamification works :(

On the topic: I think it would be a good idea for OSM if done in a good and non-technical user-friendly way.

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