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YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by jeshin »

Gigachad wrote: post #16
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

Just the other day youtube suggested me this cutsie "what to do with old microwaves" video that just had the corporate jingle music over a video of a guy building various things out of microwave transformers without any kind of narration or warning of the danger. Considering people are actually dying trying these microwave tricks, this is no longer a theoretical concern. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2UfglFeOH8 (m…

these are with a low voltage high current winding, instead of the standard 2000v winding, though, which is much safer. The danger of the unmodified microwave transformer isn't really so much that it has exposed mains voltage (although obviously you should be careful around that, too), but that it has 2000v+ and it's galvanically isolated, meaning no GFCI/RCD will save you (and obviously the 2000v will also do a much quicker job at passing lethal current through your heart/other organs)

Comparatively, a spot welder is "just" as dangerous as any other mains-based experiment. Not safe, but you have a pretty good shot at surviving, even if you get zapped.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by fritztastic »

pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

I thought it was just annoying that they're often on the top results of searches and thought of them as just digital clutter.

But for people to post outright dangerous and deadly instructions is negligent at best and I would say more accurately in the realm of manslaughter at least.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by ntoskrnl »

kzrdude wrote: post #64
colejohnson66 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like Big Clive (and Electroboom) because they know how to be safe, but do the stupid thing anyways (safely) to show how bad the ideas are.

I can't watch Electroboom because he always gives himself shocks in every video. Don't care that they are small or it's set up, I can't stand watching it, makes me ill. Seems to be interesting stories he's telling otherwise though, so it's a shame.

I'm a fan of ElectroBoom, but I have to agree, some of them are pretty horrifying to watch. The Jacob's Ladder video sticks out in my mind - I still can't decide whether it was staged. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g1z47U_kZQ

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by lancesells »

mrtksn wrote: post #90
framapotari wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For example, if someone is posting about something harmful the videos should remain and the person who does that should face the consequences. Ok, so now a video is up and people are tricked by it and injure themselves in the process. Some people die. Is that an acceptable cost? Does your solution make any considerations for ongoing harm?

Sue the person who uploaded the video, as it happens with all the malicious activities with the real world. Sure, we can have tools to reduce risk - maybe there can be a warning under the video that the contents are disputed and some people claimed harm. If those people are lying the video uploader can sue them. Just because some people don't know how to behave and have delusions that nothing is real on the internet,…

> Just as with the real world, people need to develop the right habits to stay safe.

Just as with the real world, you don't have a right to a broadcasting platform for anything you wish.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by tehwebguy »

honkdaddy wrote: post #42
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

I just looked into it.. Ugh, this kind of content is just abysmal. 25 GLUE GUN HACKS YOU HAVE TO TRY 24 SIMPLE BEAUTY TRICKS TO MAKE YOU LOOK FABULOUS https://www.youtube.com/c/5MinuteCraftsYouTube/ Who are the people watching this stuff? I assume it's largely women and parents, as a lot of the "hacks" are beauty or parenting related. I watched a few minutes and all the ideas were just... terrible? Ranging from silly…

Plenty of people hate this shit and still watch it because they got tricked. I watched (skimmed) like 12 videos yesterday trying to find a hack to locate my empty AirPods case. There’s apparently no way to do it but each video had a more infuriatingly false title than the last.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by pjc50 »

micromacrofoot wrote: post #39

Why is this so hard for these massive companies? A single reasonable person can make better decisions than this.

There's only so many videos a single reasonable person can watch. And once you scale it it's no longer a single reasonable person but a vast army of low-paid content watchers.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by Gordonjcp »

TrackerFF wrote: post #59
pornel wrote: post #10

There is a massive YouTube and Instagram industry of outright faking craft and cooking tips. They're not just bad or a stretch, they're intentionally fabricated, made at scale by TheSoul Publishing with 550 employees. That's because making cool things looking surprisingly easy goes viral way better than actual reality-grounded instructions, and for the adtech giants nothing matters except the number of clicks. Before…

Seems like their DIY / craft vids have moved from glue guns to angle grinders and (tack) welding lately. Anyone with even the smallest amount experience with either, know that these things are accidents bound to happen.

> and (tack) welding

To be fair, Gasless MIG is basically a glue gun for grown-ups.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by lancesells »

addicted wrote: post #23

Wait, why did YT remove Ann’s video? She doesn’t show how it’s done. She just shows, through drawings, how dangerous it is. WTF Yiutube.

I'm going to guess the people and companies profiting from those videos reported her video.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by mminer237 »

addicted wrote: post #23

Wait, why did YT remove Ann’s video? She doesn’t show how it’s done. She just shows, through drawings, how dangerous it is. WTF Yiutube.

Because she talks about death, and YouTube can't monetize videos about death.

Re: YouTube removes criticism of dangerous fractal wood burning, but leaves up tips

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Post by Gordonjcp »

dazzawazza wrote: post #3

Big Clive has a good video on why this is dangerous and how to make it more safe. Note: not safe safe, just more safe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBeSKL9zVro

Safe by Big Clive standards, who had (on his original website) a "chandelier" made from GU10 bulbs, bare stainless rod, and the little terminal blocks from choccy block connectors, all gloriously exposed and at 240V.
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