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Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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I really hope this will have consequences that shake up ad tech, but the cynic in me says: They're just going to add another disclaimer in their cookie banner and exactly nothing will happen.

The problem is that most people just dont read cookie banners and just click "Accept all"

Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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It's time for EU services to shine.

We have IRC and it shines bright! But seriously: Google just needs to move the problematic part of their EU business into EU and start complying.

it is not so easy for Google. The US side will always demand stuff from them. At least for having the ability.

Microsoft once had the right™ offering: Deutsche Telekom running the Azure data center, so it's the same software etc., but legally fully separated. Didn't get many customers (I don't know what kind of restrictions there were)

Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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Nextcloud would be a solid European alternative for office365. It's a file sync, groupware, office and xhat solution all in one. It's open source, self hostable and has enterprise support. Disclaimer: I work at Nextcloud so I'm a bit biased

Its not a managed service so its not a direct alternative.

There's [lots of options](https://nextcloud.com/partners/) for using Nextcloud as a managed service.

Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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This is not about downloading content, it's about uploading content.

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You don't understand. You can send all your data plus your dirty underwear to Google for them to analyze. What you can't do is send them data of other ppl without their consent.

Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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Thank God we have very capable cloud providers in Europe that will rise to the challenge and offer a viable opportunity to the US major cloud providers!

We definitely do have all of those. For some reason, IT managers prefer to teach themselves the AWS/Azure/GCloud configuration clusterfuck rather than the portable OpenStack configuration clusterfuck, but that's suffering we're all bringing on ourselves.

Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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The CLOUD Act itself is the issue. Don't use MS Office 365 or any other US based service even if their servers are in Europe as they can not guarantee that your data is not accessible by the US. Amazon and Cloudflare are all great service but your data is under US jurisdiction.

Can’t this be solved by providing zero-knowledge encrypted services? Won’t work in all cases. But could work in some.

maybe use something like goatcounter or selfhost the analytics.

Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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Thank God we have very capable cloud providers in Europe that will rise to the challenge and offer a viable opportunity to the US major cloud providers!

Hetzner, OVH, Leaseweb, Scaleway. How many cloud providers do you need?

None of them compares to Amazon. The only kinda similar competitor in Europe is... Yandex Cloud.

The reality is that we don't have the same ability of popping companies up and funding them.

Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

#130

The CLOUD Act itself is the issue. Don't use MS Office 365 or any other US based service even if their servers are in Europe as they can not guarantee that your data is not accessible by the US. Amazon and Cloudflare are all great service but your data is under US jurisdiction.

Can’t this be solved by providing zero-knowledge encrypted services? Won’t work in all cases. But could work in some.

How does the consumer know it is zero-knowledge?
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