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Not Google, a company. Because not GA on it's self is illegal. The use of GA is illegal.
Now I'm wondering how many EU government sites are currently using GA.
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Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal
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Why so?
I guess parent fears that Google will blanket-disable access to all Google services in the EU, as retaliation. Unlikely imho, but it's true that Analytics was a big loss - it's only one step down from their core product, Adsense, and if GDPR enforcement comes for Adsense then they will have to go nuclear.
Would they really throw the golden egg out with the bathwater though - even if the egg's not shining quite as bright anymore because targeting isn't as accurate? Seems like an overly risky move that stock holders shouldn't allow.
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#94What does it mean these days to be a “European website” (or a “Canadian website”, etc)? The server is located in Europe? The domain name is owned by a company registered in Europe? What if a CDN serves the site from another location? What if the site is served in an iframe on a site in another location?
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#95The CLOUD Act itself is the issue. Don't use MS Office 365 or any other US based service even if their servers are in Europe as they can not guarantee that your data is not accessible by the US. Amazon and Cloudflare are all great service but your data is under US jurisdiction.
What are solid european alternatives?
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#96Thank God we have very capable cloud providers in Europe that will rise to the challenge and offer a viable opportunity to the US major cloud providers!
Hetzner, OVH, Leaseweb, Scaleway. How many cloud providers do you need?
Please remember me for how long OVH was down when they lost an entire "DC"? And how much customer data did they lose?
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why so?
I guess parent fears that Google will blanket-disable access to all Google services in the EU, as retaliation. Unlikely imho, but it's true that Analytics was a big loss - it's only one step down from their core product, Adsense, and if GDPR enforcement comes for Adsense then they will have to go nuclear.
Well, is Adsense GDPR compliant?
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#98> Therefore, the data of European citizens may not be transferred across the Atlantic.
That is different from the headline. GA is still legal; the judgement is that it remains illegal to transfer PII from the EU to the US. That's not new; that's GDPR. This judgement is just upholding GDPR.
It's just data traders grumbling about a law they don't like in a place they don't live in.
Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal
#99The CLOUD Act itself is the issue. Don't use MS Office 365 or any other US based service even if their servers are in Europe as they can not guarantee that your data is not accessible by the US. Amazon and Cloudflare are all great service but your data is under US jurisdiction.
Can’t this be solved by providing zero-knowledge encrypted services? Won’t work in all cases. But could work in some.
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If one stops and thinks about this point of view, most of the services used globally are under US jurisdiction... Which is less than ideal.
Can you think of a good alternative other than outlawing Microsoft 365? I want these services to be spread out however this particular idea would make the EU even more sluggish than it already is
> Can you think of a good alternative other than outlawing Microsoft 365?
The US withrawing the CLOUD Act.