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Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by zozbot234 » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 5:41 PM UTC

deadalus wrote: post #108

3gg wrote: post #40

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Hey deadalus, quick question here: how does all of this compare to Luciferianism and left-hand path kind of stuff? I started reading some of the latter, but I found them to be so ridden with grammar errors that I wish Satan were an English teacher. Perhaps the most decent book I found was Anton LaVey's The Satanic Bible, but so far I am finding it too down-to-earth to quench my thirst for the exotic. By the way, do y…

Most of the authors I linked here are not linked with Luciferianism. They deal with occult 'rituals' in order to gain a certain result - wealth, love, happiness, destruction of enemies, getting more opportunities. So you can expect to find a lot of rituals that aid you in getting those results. The work is not philosophical or analytical - but result oriented. Here is the link to 'Liber Azerate' in English : https://…

> wealth, love, happiness, destruction of enemies, getting more opportunities

One should be aware of the fact that these things can be pursued quite effectively with no need for seeking out or confronting any malevolent beings or forces, and this will generally be an easier and more fruitful approach, at least for the novice practitioner. It's very rare that even one's outwardly "selfish" goals are not far more amenable to a positive approach which can implicitly leverage the "loving kindness" that's inherent to the universe according to many practitioners of magick and similar pursuits-- relying on it as a key regulating, stabilizing and harmonizing principle.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by samatman » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 5:45 PM UTC

abecedarius wrote: post #90

hodgesrm wrote: post #11

Notes for those planning to sell your soul online: eBay specifically prohibits such transactions. [1] Compared to some online bans, the reasoning is pleasingly coherent. eBay does not allow the auctioning of human souls for the following reasons: If the soul does not exist, eBay could not allow the auctioning of the soul because there would be nothing to sell. However, if the soul does exist then, in accordance with…

About a dozen people sold their souls on Twitter a while back, so there's another venue. E.g. https://twitter.com/liminal_warmth/status/142135011902313677... Terms: https://liminalwarmth.com/contract-for-sale-of-soul/ Discussion: https://liminalwarmth.com/the-questionable-ethics-of-buying-... As a total atheist I'd still say don't do it. It's not farfetched to interpret the word 'soul' as a future high-res brain scan…

My argument against this is as follows: would you sell your dignity for $10?

Now, my dignity doesn't exist in any sense which makes selling it meaningful. So it's kind of like free money.

But really it isn't. There's someone out there who can say "I own samatman's dignity, and I got it for cheap". I'm a guy who sold his dignity, and everyone knows it. I feel like people would judge me for that.

There are definitely people out there who will judge you for selling your soul. It doesn't have to exist for that to be real. Is it actually worth ten bucks? I expect there aren't many people who would see that and say "oh cool, you sold your soul for less than a sandwich in SF! You must be an interesting person, I think better of you now that I heard that".

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by briefcomment » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 5:47 PM UTC

quaintdev wrote: post #70

Since we are on a metaphorical plane today. Let me put my comment along similar lines on a youtube video [1] You see in Zombie movies, the zombie is always trying to turn an individual capable of moral decisions, empathy, insight into just another zombie out of his own self interest. Our society is actually far closer to the truth shown in those movies. Just because people are not biting each other does not mean thos…

That makes sense. So the majority of us are already zombies

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by diegoperini » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 5:47 PM UTC

samatman wrote: post #122

abecedarius wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

About a dozen people sold their souls on Twitter a while back, so there's another venue. E.g. https://twitter.com/liminal_warmth/status/142135011902313677... Terms: https://liminalwarmth.com/contract-for-sale-of-soul/ Discussion: https://liminalwarmth.com/the-questionable-ethics-of-buying-... As a total atheist I'd still say don't do it. It's not farfetched to interpret the word 'soul' as a future high-res brain scan…

My argument against this is as follows: would you sell your dignity for $10? Now, my dignity doesn't exist in any sense which makes selling it meaningful. So it's kind of like free money. But really it isn't. There's someone out there who can say "I own samatman's dignity, and I got it for cheap". I'm a guy who sold his dignity, and everyone knows it. I feel like people would judge me for that. There are definitely p…

Humans usually put their dignity on rent.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by briefcomment » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 5:48 PM UTC

cweill wrote: post #46

neither_color wrote: post #18

I will never get a more relevant chance to bring this up, so has anyone heard of Napoleon Hill’s(Think and Grow Rich) other book? It’s called Outwitting the Devil, where he interviews the devil. He refused to publish it during his lifetime, and his estate also put off publishing it for decades because it contains strongs critiques of the educational system, the government, and the church as being tools of the ‘devil’…

As much as people love Napoleon Hill and his book, he may have been one of the first and biggest fake gurus of the 20th century, having never actually interviewed Carnegie and other rich people for his beloved book: https://youtu.be/iEDzb9ZplX0

What does that have to do with this other book?

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by aflag » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 5:50 PM UTC

If selling your soul to the devil works, you'd be a fool to sell it. Otherwise, you're just wasting your time.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by swayvil » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 5:52 PM UTC

hodgesrm wrote: post #11

Notes for those planning to sell your soul online: eBay specifically prohibits such transactions. [1] Compared to some online bans, the reasoning is pleasingly coherent. eBay does not allow the auctioning of human souls for the following reasons: If the soul does not exist, eBay could not allow the auctioning of the soul because there would be nothing to sell. However, if the soul does exist then, in accordance with…

As I understand it, "soul" is synonymous with "attention".

That is : you direct it and concentrate it. And it is prone to distraction (temptation?).

Given that, we are all well familiar with our soul. And its manipulation is a common everyday occurrence.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by OhMidER » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 5:56 PM UTC

I strongly advise anyone seriously considering this to not mess around with it. There is more out there than we know. Whether you believe in a traditional religion or not, bear mind that nobody knows what happens after death until they experience it (or not). That we exist and are sentient is evidence of the possibility of continuity AD.

Don't make deals with Satan/demons, even jokingly.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by dv_dt » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 5:56 PM UTC

classified wrote: post #94

mimixco wrote: post #75

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You've just invented a new kind of "futures trading" and the mother of all kinds of innovative financial scams. Awesome! Someone should definitely start a business trading in "souls" and NFTs seem to be of the same ilk, so you guys are onto something.

Couldn't the Bockchain be used to make sure souls can be optioned away only once? We would have finally found a use for the Blockchain after all!

Starting a timer to see how long it takes for a soulchain to be offered.

Re: How to summon and sell your soul to Satan and other devils

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Post by erikpukinskis » Sun, Aug 01, 2021, 5:59 PM UTC

I read these stories much more literally.

One of the things the human brain does is project an honest picture of your self. This is your soul, it's whatever you perceive is your true nature. It's not nice stories you tell about yourself, it's your honest bottom line appraisal.

"Selling your soul" is doing something that you know will inflicting trauma on others in return for rewards to you. This is going against "God" where "God" is defined as the sum of all forces in the universe which heal trauma.

If you do this repeatedly, it makes irreparable changes to your self image. It gets harder and harder to see yourself as part of the movement to heal trauma, and you start to see yourself as part of the non-healing world, which includes "The Devil"—defined as the sum of all sentient forces in the universe which inflict trauma, either delighting in it or by suppressing normal emotional responses.

Alongside this, Christianity points at "seeking forgiveness", or asking for (external) trauma-healing forces ("God") to change you... with an earnest desire to be changed. That forgiveness, when granted, can then repair this self image in your brain. So that's the opposing side of this process.

Where you "soul" gets "sold" is just that the more you engage in trauma-for-pay, the more distance you put between yourself and the flock of trauma healers in this world. And the harder it is for you to believe any interest you might have in forgiveness is earnest. Eventually you get far enough out there you need a Jesus-level counsellor to bring you back into the flock, of which there are VERY few in the world.

That kind of person goes and finds the people with the most damaged self image, and is skilled at uncovering an old self image and healing their trauma. In Christianity, these are "saints".

But that's the long shot. The "don't sell your soul" directive is saying, don't head down that path because it's hard enough to maintain a positive, honest self image as it is.