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Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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I wonder how intelligence affects introversion. I think that most people are boring and it's draining to act like being interested in their stories or behavior.

I think what we're measuring here is how much people like being in their own headspace.

Noting here that I generally find intelligence to be an unhelpful metric.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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I'm a physically and socially isolated introvert in a rural county and have been working from home for a decade. About the only difference for me was the occasional need to put on a mask before walking in a store. My greatest inconvenience was very minor: I was turned away from a convenience store for not having a mask with me. Early in the lockdowns I made a trip to the closest big city for a dentist appointment and…

This summarizes my situation, with one exception: the occasional trips (~twice a month) to work from the local coffeeshop, and/or ~twice a year trips to company retreats, helped varying the scenery and avoiding feeling burned out. Now I don't have that escape valve anymore and so, despite being remote for 10+ years, I'm dreading it.

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There aren’t any measurable elements of personality that are fixed. Personality changes as you age. I’ve witnessed a reversal in each of the Myers-Briggs markers in the past 15 years (from INTJ to ESFP) — not intentionally, but that’s just the way my life played out. I’ve come to see the truth of the matter like this: every human being has a need for socializing, but it takes effort and is exhausting. The amount of e…

Agree! One of the most harmful beliefs about the concept of intro-/extroversion is that it is something you are and not something you do. Many people limit themselves massively because of how they've labeled themselves. Especially in "strong introverts", the label is often used as a convenient excuse for not going through the often painful process of trying to improve their confidence skills and social skills. "I'm a…

I think it depends on how you define what an introvert is. By your definition, it is someone who lacks confidence and social skills. I see a lot of people use the word introvert to mean "prefers spending time alone to socializing". This person may have all the confidence and social skills in the world but just prefers spending time alone, for whatever reason.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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post #20

There aren’t any measurable elements of personality that are fixed. Personality changes as you age. I’ve witnessed a reversal in each of the Myers-Briggs markers in the past 15 years (from INTJ to ESFP) — not intentionally, but that’s just the way my life played out. I’ve come to see the truth of the matter like this: every human being has a need for socializing, but it takes effort and is exhausting. The amount of e…

Agree! One of the most harmful beliefs about the concept of intro-/extroversion is that it is something you are and not something you do. Many people limit themselves massively because of how they've labeled themselves. Especially in "strong introverts", the label is often used as a convenient excuse for not going through the often painful process of trying to improve their confidence skills and social skills. "I'm a…

I don't think introversion comes from not wanting to learn to interact, but from not seeing a reason to. Anecdotally, I switched from introvert to extravert when I changed the focus of the conversation from knowledge transfer to just trying to have fun, I'm sure everyone has their own reason X for being introverted or extroverted.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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> Then the loneliness becomes unbearable and I retreat. I don't understand how this goes. Could you describe your experience with more details ? > I built a desk a couple of years ago and I'm still waiting to show it off to somebody. Well, you could paste a picture here :).

when you are alone, you are alone, but when you are among people that you don't know how to interact with, or don't want to interact with because you don't feel you have anything in common with them, then you feel lonely.

So much this. I never feel as lonely as I do in a packed city visiting for work.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Really it was a lose-lose situation. Ignore it and you stack bodies in a freezer truck like in NYC. Lock down and a lot of your businesses no longer exist. Hopefully we're done with it for the next 100 years.

The next “thing” will happen in 20 years. 9/11 -> Covid -> (whatever 2040 cooks up for us to make sure the next generation lives in fear)

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Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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Yeah it also seems like he didn't give in to the fear and went about his life as best as he could. He went to the dentist early in lockdowns. My social circle would've cast you out for that and it is for sure a smaller circle than it was in March 2020 because of media provided moral imperatives that if you didn't follow week to week, you were no better than a Republican Actually, it eventually made me Republican.

Really it was a lose-lose situation. Ignore it and you stack bodies in a freezer truck like in NYC. Lock down and a lot of your businesses no longer exist. Hopefully we're done with it for the next 100 years.

> Really it was a lose-lose situation. Ignore it and you stack bodies in a freezer truck like in NYC.

I can't tell whether this is sarcasm, but in the unlikely event that it's not, how do you explain every place that didn't lockdown having dramatically better numbers than NYC?

Surely there's no remaining possibility of regarding lockdowns as a success?

What data can possibly conclude this experiment if not the data which already exists?

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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post #9

I'm a physically and socially isolated introvert in a rural county and have been working from home for a decade. About the only difference for me was the occasional need to put on a mask before walking in a store. My greatest inconvenience was very minor: I was turned away from a convenience store for not having a mask with me. Early in the lockdowns I made a trip to the closest big city for a dentist appointment and…

Indeed, I was trying some avenues to be less introverted. Those shut down. I became worse off, but it really is a matter of what we consider the baseline

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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How clear the rules are is irrelevant - they were theoretical, an occasional example made, but no one really gave a damn. If you followed those rules you're a gullible sucker, most people were in the parks drinking and socialising.

What universe are you in? April 2020 lockdown left the streets in Manchester dead for the first and only time I've ever seen, I think you might be revising history a bit

In London the parks were full, the ice cream shops were open, and if you think anyone was having their exercise limited to one hour a day you're unfortunately subservient. I have never worn a mask, and I have been on multi-hour rides around London without seeing a single mask. Dog walkers were all stopping for chats, people gathering at duck ponds for chats, parties continued to be had. My condolences to Manchester, it seems to have naive understanding of how the world works; stand up or get stepped on.

Re: Introverts didn't 'win' lockdown

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As someone who is inclined to introversion, forced interactions with the outside world are critically important to preventing my becoming an isolated, indifferent, and self-centered person.

I have far from been a winner in this pandemic. I wish that I could have been in the office regularly. I am extremely jealous of the engineering department and medicine department who were allowed to be at the university basically any time then wanted.

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