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Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by Quarrel »

tpmx wrote: post #60
Quarrel wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know. Virgin Media quote High Court orders saying they have to block several I tried, but my home ISP does not block any of them. These seems weird to me, that the court orders would cover a few specific ISPs, but I haven't looked in to it further.

Are those High Court orders secret? Is there any journalism happening?

Someone else linked this:

https://www.blocked.org.uk/

Which includes info on the orders:

https://www.blocked.org.uk/legal-blocks

Occasionally there is a small amount of reporting on it, but it tends to be fairly misdirected and naive.

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by spicybright »

dredmorbius wrote: post #83
jandrese wrote: post #26

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Millions of individual torrents is not a great solution. Keeping them all seeded is basically impossible unless they run a seed for each one, at which point they might as well just host the files. Plus you'll never get the economy of scale that makes BitTorrent really shine. When you have a whole lot of tiny files that people will generally only want one or two of there isn't much better than a plain old website. A t…

What documents (books, scientific articles) benefit from specifically is a number of highly consistent, highly accurate identifiers: DOI (scientific articles), ISBN (published books), and others (OCLC identifier, Library of Congress Catalogue Number, etc.) With the addition of hashsums (even MD5 ad SHA1, though longer and more robust hashsums are preferred), a pretty reliable archive of content can be made. It's a cu…

Why map anything to words for strict identification? Words and language are very error prone vs an id number or hash.

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by TZubiri »

tmkadamcz wrote: post #10

By the way, Sci-Hub has stopped adding new articles to the database for a few months now (background: https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/mk46x4/scihub_v_els... ). It would be great to develop a truly decentralised solution. Having a database of individual torrent links for each paper might be a start.

I'm growning skeptical of the idea that every science text should be free. As a community that values privacy, it's hypocritical that these widespread leaking is so well accepted.

The fact that scihub needs to skip domain names every couple of months and that ISPs start blocking the website, looks to confirm my theory, rather than imply some worldwide conspiracy.

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by ta988 »

TZubiri wrote: post #123
tmkadamcz wrote: post #10

By the way, Sci-Hub has stopped adding new articles to the database for a few months now (background: https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/mk46x4/scihub_v_els... ). It would be great to develop a truly decentralised solution. Having a database of individual torrent links for each paper might be a start.

I'm growning skeptical of the idea that every science text should be free. As a community that values privacy, it's hypocritical that these widespread leaking is so well accepted. The fact that scihub needs to skip domain names every couple of months and that ISPs start blocking the website, looks to confirm my theory, rather than imply some worldwide conspiracy.

How is that a leak? Only the publishing companies are making money. Authors, reviewers and often editors all work for free.

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by ta988 »

keithnz wrote: post #119
tmkadamcz wrote: post #10

By the way, Sci-Hub has stopped adding new articles to the database for a few months now (background: https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/mk46x4/scihub_v_els... ). It would be great to develop a truly decentralised solution. Having a database of individual torrent links for each paper might be a start.

from what I understand, the Authors are still free to send you their papers. So perhaps the simplest decentralized system is for each author to run an automatic email request system and have feeds / aggregators of papers titles/abstracts with author emails to make it easy to get the papers you want?

That would only work for a tiny tiny intersection of : 1) technical enough people to install and maintain that 2) with an email address still working (if there is one on the paper!) 3) still alive

that's probably a really small set of scientists.

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by ta988 »

whimsicalism wrote: post #51
kortilla wrote: post #35

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But they could just always be a seeder. Doesn’t that have the upsides of the existing solution plus resiliency?

Isn't scihub/libgen already backed by torrents? I'm confused.

Nope it was mostly direct download for the endusers with some ipfs in some places.

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by ta988 »

divbzero wrote: post #79
Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #63

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> Cease to supply this system with the fruits of your research labors. Historically academics have felt forced to support this system, because for-profit journals are the high-prestige ones they must publish in in order to get tenure. This has changed for certain fields, but it isn’t as simple as just suggesting that one publish elsewhere.

It’s up to not only academics who publish articles, but also organizations that issue grants and tenure. Public policies to adjust their definitions of “prestige” or “quality” would help.

And these are mostly run by people that have not even heard of scihub, openaccess etc

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by ta988 »

burundi_coffee wrote: post #81
vbezhenar wrote: post #39

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Google sci hub telegram bot returns me @scihubbot as the first results. You might want to try it out.

Actually, it's @scihubot. You can send it links to the paper from the journal webpage or the doi link, for example: https://doi.org/10.1063/1.432563

But it doesnt have any recent papers does it?

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by kypro »

beermonster wrote: post #15

Just setup a VPN on some cheap cloud provider. There are lots of sites UK ISPs block even though the sites themselves are not illegal or host illegal content. For e.g. torrent indexing services (the content itself may be illegal but purely providing a search across that content is basically doing what Google do). The UK internet is heavily filtered/censored and so doing this is useful anyway. Business ISP connections…

Also worth adding if a site isn’t banned by the UK government many sites now georestrict UK residents or give you several opt-in pop ups because of GDPR.

Re: How to circumvent Sci-Hub ISP block

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Post by mandelken »

spicybright wrote: post #122
dredmorbius wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What documents (books, scientific articles) benefit from specifically is a number of highly consistent, highly accurate identifiers: DOI (scientific articles), ISBN (published books), and others (OCLC identifier, Library of Congress Catalogue Number, etc.) With the addition of hashsums (even MD5 ad SHA1, though longer and more robust hashsums are preferred), a pretty reliable archive of content can be made. It's a cu…

Why map anything to words for strict identification? Words and language are very error prone vs an id number or hash.

Probably because for written text the words identify the content while the hash relates more to the digital carrier format (pdf vs epub) and id number can change between publications, countries, etc.
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